Desktop stands ~24" for Genelec 1029A

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I'm looking to replace the 32" 4k panel on my desk with this wider Dell 40" 5k panel.

This is the current arrangement. The old 24" panel on the left might go. Idk. Will have to experiment. Imagine it's not there for this conversation.

with the new monitors the speakers would be too wide if I keep those stands. So I think they need to go above the new display panel. It's a sit/stand desk so if I were to mount the speakers on the wall they would be too elevated while I sit. Hence desktop stands behind the display panel. Will need a bit of a wedge on top to tilt them down.

Product suggestions?

 

[Multicore]

K&K makes a nice stand 26740 but it's ~$250 each.

I wonder if I could fit Monoprice Monolith 24" behind the new display.

 

[Redacted]

Wall brackets with L-R & tilt action. Probably about £20.

 

[Multicore]

Wall brackets with L-R & tilt action. Probably about £20.

It's a sit/stand desk so if I were to mount the speakers on the wall they would be too elevated while I sit.

 

[Redacted]

That's why I made the point about brackets that tilt.
Works fine in my lounge.
You can use clamp-stands on the edge of your desk.
It's a trivial problem to solve though. IMHO!

 

[Soundproof]

Not sure if Genelec is 3/8 or 1/2? Anyway, believe this is a decent technical solution. I considered it as I was very close to purchase iLoud MTM MkII not too many days ago:

K&M 23875 : Dual monitor mount (1X)
K&M 21900-000-29 : 3/8 - 1/2 adapter screw (2X if needed)
K&M 23881 : Adapter for monitor mount (2X)

Max width Center to Center is 1166 mm, I somehow believe the whole shebang fits the pole of a Ergotron LX too, which solves potential conflicts with that arm for the Dell.
Edit: The Dell seems to be 945 mm wide thus 221 mm or 110 mm spare on each side. Might be very thight, and if so, 2 single arms could solve it. With pole extensions, you'll be able to use the stands for camera/mic too. Just sayin'.

Dual monitor mount

The perfect solution for your individual workspace. With this desk mount you can position two monitors up to a size of 32" in a space-saving and ergonomic way. The robust aluminum construction with…

www.k-m.de

https://www.k-m.de/media/pdf/1a/ed/4a/23875-000-55.pdf

Remove the Vesa mounts from the monitor arms and fit the adapters. Turn the head 90 deg, and the arms will be below the monitors.

 

[Multicore]

That's why I made the point about brackets that tilt.
Works fine in my lounge.
You can use clamp-stands on the edge of your desk.
It's a trivial problem to solve though. IMHO!

they are near-field speakers for a workstation. but since it is a sit/stand desk wall mounted speakers would need be positioned high enough on the wall to shoot over the display panel when the desk is up and i'm standing. and then when the desk is down and i sit the speakers will be far too high. (dunno if you were implying this but ... i also wouldn't consider adjusting the tilt of the wall speaker mount every time i sit or stand.) stands resting on or attached to the desk top have the advantage of maintaining speaker position relative to the near-field listener rather better.

 

[Multicore]

Not sure if Genelec is 3/8 or 1/2? Anyway, believe this is a decent technical solution. I considered it as I was very close to purchase iLoud MTM MkII not too many days ago:

K&M 23875 : Dual monitor mount (1X)
K&M 21900-000-29 : 3/8 - 1/2 adapter screw (2X if needed)
K&M 23881 : Adapter for monitor mount (2X)

Max width Center to Center is 1166 mm, I somehow believe the whole shebang fits the pole of a Ergotron LX too, which solves potential conflicts with that arm for the Dell.
Edit: The Dell seems to be 945 mm wide thus 221 mm or 110 mm spare on each side. Might be very thight, and if so, 2 single arms could solve it. With pole extensions, you'll be able to use the stands for camera/mic too. Just sayin'.

Dual monitor mount

The perfect solution for your individual workspace. With this desk mount you can position two monitors up to a size of 32" in a space-saving and ergonomic way. The robust aluminum construction with…

www.k-m.de

https://www.k-m.de/media/pdf/1a/ed/4a/23875-000-55.pdf

Remove the Vesa mounts from the monitor arms and fit the adapters. Turn the head 90 deg, and the arms will be below the monitors.

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i've tried to avoid the word monitor here since it can mean both display and loudspeaker.

are you suggesting to use the K&M 23875 to support the speakers?

from the 1029a datasheet

There are several possibilities for mounting
the 1029A. On the base of the monitor is a
3/8" UNC threaded hole which can accom-
modate a standard microphone stand. There
is a provision for an Omnimount® size 50
bracket, for which two M6x10mm screws
are required. Alter natively the speaker can
be hung on M4 screws with suitable heads
by one of the three keyhole slots on the
backpanel. The speaker can be hung in a
horizontal or vertical position. Friction pads
are provided for placement on a shelf or a
stand.​

 

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Overthinking an irrelevant issue, IMHO!

 

[Soundproof]

i've tried to avoid the word monitor here since it can mean both display and loudspeaker.

are you suggesting to use the K&M 23875 to support the speakers?

from the 1029a datasheet

There are several possibilities for mounting​

the 1029A. On the base of the monitor is a​

3/8" UNC threaded hole which can accom-​

modate a standard microphone stand. There​

is a provision for an Omnimount® size 50​

bracket, for which two M6x10mm screws​

are required. Alter natively the speaker can​

be hung on M4 screws with suitable heads​

by one of the three keyhole slots on the​

backpanel. The speaker can be hung in a​

horizontal or vertical position. Friction pads​

are provided for placement on a shelf or a​

stand.​

I do.

I have a Linak lift desktop, and I checked the K&M for iLoud MTM MkII + 32" BenQ which I have on a Ergotron LX stand. THINK I can leave the K&M pole/clamp in the carton and use the LX pole. Given the width is ok, which I believe is touch and go, the potential caveats are the lowest distance between desktop and speaker AND how loose the spring can be set, if your monitor speakers are too light for the springs, they will rise.

It is the only off the shelf solution of this kind I have seen, but one can drop the adapter and buy 2 "knee brackets", drill holes for the 3/8 screws, cut for the rear speaker cables++ and drill a 75x75 or 100x100 VESA pattern and attach them to any monitor arm capable of handling the low weight of the speakers. That will permit the lowering of the speakers down to abt 10-15 mm from the desktop. The shape of the "L" of the "knee brackets" will determine that as you can offset downwards and/or outwards from a standard vesa mount.

Now, these are not the prettiest, and I looked at it because of the 3/8" adapter. Making or having made for you the vesa adpter brackets I would have chosen Ergotron LX twin arm like the K&M plus a single arm for your monitor, as the single arm can handle 10 kg and your monitor is 8.4 kg without it's stand. Ergotron costs more though.

I believe both uses 35mm poles. K&M have mic booms and brackets for phones ++ whic may be useful for your setup, attached to the same pole(s).

 

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Overthinking an irrelevant issue, IMHO!

vertical angle of near field speakers is relevant. if i split the difference it will be 25 degrees off in both positions. that's not overthinking. it's thinking about basics. my workstation isn't similar to your living room.

 

[Soundproof]

Ran throug this when I checked this out, but it wasn't valid for me, and I nearly forgot. I do somehow believe it would be interesting for your setup. Given you make or have someone make the "knee brackets" to attach the speakers to the vesa fittings of the arms.

Note: The sidearms can bend backwards, and the speakers will stay in position relative to the Dell. If you tilt the Dell, the speakers will tilt accordingly.

The advantage: Built for heavy screens, max width center/center is 1320 mm which is sufficient for for your combo. If you want the monitors out of the way, you can move the sidearms backwards and hide them behind the monitor, and when you need them, they will be in the same position in terms of angle/tilt, and vertical position. You'll have to remember the horizontal position only. IF the distance from the wall is sufficient.

https://www.ergotron.com/en-gb/products/product-details/hxdesktriplemonitorarm

 

[kemmler3D]

I guess my question would be why is ~43" apart too far apart for the speakers? I have a large-ish screen on my desk with 8030s at ear height mounted on VESA desk-clamp-style pole mounts. The tweeters are 42" apart and everything is groovy. Or are you going for 2 screens side by side?

 

[Multicore]

I guess my question would be why is ~43" apart too far apart for the speakers? I have a large-ish screen on my desk with 8030s at ear height mounted on VESA desk-clamp-style pole mounts. The tweeters are 42" apart and everything is groovy. Or are you going for 2 screens side by side?

Ditching the 2nd panel as you see above is an option I'd consider so your question is valid. At present the 2nd is separated by the left 1029A as shown. As such it isn't so useful that I can't live without.

The new panel would add about 10" separation. I already find the separation rather wide and often use a cross-channel mixer in EQ APO because the stereo mix in so many recordings is so silly and distracting. But I suppose the sensible next step would be to try to live with that wide separation and see if I can adapt.

So. Good question @kemmler3D ! Why make the new panel dependent on new, possibly expensive, speaker supports before verifying the dependency is real?

Reusing the current 32" 4k panel above the new one is another thought.

 

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vertical angle of near field speakers is relevant. if i split the difference it will be 25 degrees off in both positions. that's not overthinking. it's thinking about basics. my workstation isn't similar to your living room.

no - standing or sitting... just do one or the other!
This is preciousness gone too far!
But hey, each to his own - I'll stop being amazed and commenting

 

[Soundproof]

Sorry, missed one feature of your speakers - M4 and keyholes. Which means you won't need the "knee brackets" as the cables are pointing downwards..... Bet you can use any Vesa 75x75 or 100x100 arm of any kind suitable to your preferences.

Good luck.

 

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Two updates to report.

1. I got the new 40" ultra wide Dell display and put the old Benq on a VIVO Extra Tall Single Monitor Desk Mount above the Dell.

2. But first I checked putting a Genelec 1029A on the same VIVO stand and it worked well. The VESA mounting plate already had holes with 3" separation of Omnimount-50 but they need to be enlarged for M6 bolts. Then the mounting plate went on the Jenny and then onto the VIVO's arm.

So I could mount the speakers up beside the top panel so they would be where the webcam and gutars-and-dogs are in the photo below. That would some desktop for other uses. For now I'll see if can get along with this arrangement.

The VIVO stand seems ok and for $45 it's good value.

 

[Soundproof]

Congrats with your new 40". Found the format/dpi combo very attractive since launch, and there were (perhaps still is) a few options from LG, HP, Lenovo and so on, but I never came across a better option than the Dell. Belive the Dell panel has been upgraded since then. I compromized with 32, and as it turns out, i hardly ever take advantage of what's on offer except when experimenting with Blender.

Your setup looks very good. Makes a lot of sense to me.

 

[Multicore]

In the class of 40" 5K 5120 x 2160 displays for general office work, this Dell seems to be the clear winner.

My friend ____ tried to persuade me that I'd be better off with more 32" 4K panels. His desk has four of them (3 across and one up), but that seems a bit much to me. (His speaker stands for that were no fun either but he managed to find clamp stands and his 1.5" maple desk top can take it.)

I had only one reason to move from 32" 16:9 to 40" 21:9 – the recent addition of the assistant convo to my IDE. My old arrangement (tree/git lists left, 2 or 3 editors above, 2 or 3 terms below) fits nicely in 32" 16:9. Adding the assistant convo (which is often a bit too wordy) meant I was frequently resizing the panes according to my activity. The 40" 21:9 effectively adds 1K pixel columns on the right for the assistant convo.