I am planning to make it possible to us TV and bypass the AVR dac and preamp and switch to external dac to special preamp when listening to 2 channel music.
My plan is to upgrade to Denon X3800H in teh near future but what will be the best way to connect the external dac? The best way to extract the audio loss less to separate audio preamp/external dac for 2 channel music?
I plan to use my TV with Tidal app and stream Hdmi ARC to the receiver and then with an extractor like NÖRDIC HDMI 2.1 Extractor 8K 60Hz 4K to the S.M.S.L dac connected to zon2 and then to preamp... anyone know if 3800 be able to stream hdmi zone2 output continuously without a lot of meny changes? Will this config work?
My TV stops Toslink playback when streaming Dolby over HDMI ARC....
I think that a solution like S.M.S.L which measure far better than any AVR DAC in combination with a dedicated preamp and then a really good power amp could be better than a AVR for 1100$... the biggest difference will not be in the dac/preamp section but... we have a measurable difference so why not? I can continue with the power amp so I can use two different systems this way.
With a dynawox preamp switch it could just be one or two simple switching away and you can enjoy dedicated music listening. That's a plan anyway...
I think it can be quite fun to easy change and test different equipments in the chain to se the difference
If this works it will be so easy I could even do blind tests 
A bit off topic but... I think that the DAC and preamp can have a small effect but the power amp a big effect on the sound and sound stage...
In this forum a lot of persons think all amp sounds the same with same power and speakers, however that's not reality in most cases. All the equipment in the chain tend to colour the sound more or less. Tube amps more than transistors maybe, transistors more than premium class D? I am still not convinced its has to be a bad thing. If I listen to B&W 601 with a Onix amp its not the same sound as with the Vincent amp. does it mean its better? Maybe they are both good in different ways, they both have beautiful sound impressive sound stage but for my ears and long time listening I choose onix sound every time....when I compare the Vincent poweramp to a NAD 747 same pre in the NAD the sound is also completely different much more than DAC changing. I am quite convinced that a stereo with a speaker and a room never ever can 100% present the music as in the studio.... and what if the warmer sound or the wider sound stage is more preferable than the studio recording even if we came a lot closer... What if it was meant to sounds like a 3000$ Rotel amp in the studio? For me its more clinical and bright than enjoyable but still impressive...but my hi-fi journey has pretty much just begun
I still would'nt care how it was meant in the studio but what I enjoy at home.... This is something I plan to experiment with. I am quite sure that I dont want the sound to be badly converted in the DAC since I use a SMSL DAC that messure extremely well tih the old Onix amp and the sound is still warm and smooth
My plan is to upgrade to Denon X3800H in teh near future but what will be the best way to connect the external dac? The best way to extract the audio loss less to separate audio preamp/external dac for 2 channel music?
I plan to use my TV with Tidal app and stream Hdmi ARC to the receiver and then with an extractor like NÖRDIC HDMI 2.1 Extractor 8K 60Hz 4K to the S.M.S.L dac connected to zon2 and then to preamp... anyone know if 3800 be able to stream hdmi zone2 output continuously without a lot of meny changes? Will this config work?
My TV stops Toslink playback when streaming Dolby over HDMI ARC....
I think that a solution like S.M.S.L which measure far better than any AVR DAC in combination with a dedicated preamp and then a really good power amp could be better than a AVR for 1100$... the biggest difference will not be in the dac/preamp section but... we have a measurable difference so why not? I can continue with the power amp so I can use two different systems this way.
With a dynawox preamp switch it could just be one or two simple switching away and you can enjoy dedicated music listening. That's a plan anyway...
I think it can be quite fun to easy change and test different equipments in the chain to se the difference
A bit off topic but... I think that the DAC and preamp can have a small effect but the power amp a big effect on the sound and sound stage...
In this forum a lot of persons think all amp sounds the same with same power and speakers, however that's not reality in most cases. All the equipment in the chain tend to colour the sound more or less. Tube amps more than transistors maybe, transistors more than premium class D? I am still not convinced its has to be a bad thing. If I listen to B&W 601 with a Onix amp its not the same sound as with the Vincent amp. does it mean its better? Maybe they are both good in different ways, they both have beautiful sound impressive sound stage but for my ears and long time listening I choose onix sound every time....when I compare the Vincent poweramp to a NAD 747 same pre in the NAD the sound is also completely different much more than DAC changing. I am quite convinced that a stereo with a speaker and a room never ever can 100% present the music as in the studio.... and what if the warmer sound or the wider sound stage is more preferable than the studio recording even if we came a lot closer... What if it was meant to sounds like a 3000$ Rotel amp in the studio? For me its more clinical and bright than enjoyable but still impressive...but my hi-fi journey has pretty much just begun