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Good luck with that.
Documentation is almost as thin as the features HEOS offers. Probably easiest to simply download HEOS at the App Store and play with it. Don't expect much.
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Denon AVR-X6800H now released.
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Documentation is almost as thin as the features HEOS offers. Probably easiest to simply download HEOS at the App Store and play with it. Don't expect much.
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You are welcome. Enjoy your AVR-X6800H, it has a lot. I use 3 different streaming software; each fills a specific use-case/need. Of the 3, HEOS has the interface that allows me to navigate most easily to what I want to listen to, although I haven't done an exhaustive comparison to what's available. HEOS also works well for playing music in different zones (Main Zone, Zone 2, Zone 3) and has support for many different file formats. One important feature missing from HEOS though is multi-channel support, which is the whole point of an AVR with 11 channels + subs.
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What the???
So the pricing of the 6800 is coming down (just above 2000 euro) in the Netherlands and I'm close to picking one up in the Black Friday sale. Should be a nice upgrade from my 7200WA. Do you guys have any advice on the following:
I have a 5.2 set-up with 2 B&W DB4S subs. They have their own (iOS app based) equalizing capabilities. Currently I've first run the B&W set-up, followed by Audessey. Would it be wise, when using Dirac on the 6800, to do the same or to let Dirac handle all the measurements?
I have a 5.2 set-up with 2 B&W DB4S subs. They have their own (iOS app based) equalizing capabilities. Currently I've first run the B&W set-up, followed by Audessey. Would it be wise, when using Dirac on the 6800, to do the same or to let Dirac handle all the measurements?
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I would let Dirac handle all correction.
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You'll want to turn off as much of that in-sub DSP as possible because its only going to add latency which will make it harder for Dirac to time-align your speakers.
Try A1 Evo, it is really good. You get to keep DynamicEQ(loudness curve), which Dirac doesn't have.
That looks very promising, thanks!
Another vote for Dirac to handle subs. I would only use sub DSP if you don't like what you are getting from Dirac. Difficult to say what circumstances that would be but e.g. some high peaks to cut if Dirac curve looks odd. If not mistaken, Dirac on D&M can handle 17m distance which would be sufficient for most sub DSPs. For Audy that would be some 6m so DSP not really recommended.
Hey All, Any chance of making a list of solved and unsolved issues with the AVR-X6800h? Even better if this could be a sticky so it is easy to find and maintain as things change over time/hopefully get solved. Current owners could provide very useful info here instead of having to read through multiple pages.
I would be interested to to know this too, how well does the 6800 generally fair in terms of issues?
I'll probably pull the trigger tomorrow on either a 4800 or a 6800 to upgrade form my 4400h (mostly because I want to try Dirac). Is there a reason to even get the 6800 over the 4800 if I don't need the higher channel count? I only have a 5.1 with dual subs in a living room and even though I'll probably upgrade to Atmos in the next few months, I'll never need more than 9 channels. I might get some dedicated amps for the front but or now I want to use the internal amps (I have XTZ Cinema M6 and S2 speakers). Would you get the 4800 or the 6800?
6800H will have higher channel count and bit higher SINAD - but compare other features as can't remember from top of my head. For most that SINAD difference would not be audible compared to 4800H. 6800H can do front wides, but seems that does not matter to you.
But then, 4800H is mostly 3800H made in Japan with some slight differences overall.
But then, 4800H is mostly 3800H made in Japan with some slight differences overall.
Yeah it's seems like it's mostly some very minor improvements which most likely won't translate to any real world audible differences but it's certainly "nice to know" that they are there but if this is worth 1000 bucks more is another question...
Indeed but you can say that about pretty much every model in their lineup other than the A10H, which really is a major step up in terms of build quality, construction and quality of parts, - but it's also almost 2000 bucks more than the 6800. I'd love to get the A10H but unfortunately it's out of my budget so it's just the question of where to make the cutoff between these 3 models, where it makes the most sense. I kinda was set on the 4800 because I'm very happy with my current 4400h but I would be willing to spend a grand more if it's "worth it". Honestly, from a logical standpoint, getting everything other than the 3800 from Denon right now is actually stupid - it's on sale for 750.- right now
But I don't want to "downgrade" my amp section since I'm planning on using it and the improved DAC on the 4800 and of course the 6800 is also appealing...If budget and value are concern, 3800H is the champ. Not sure I would buy 6800H if not interested in its features. Better chances you will like Dirac, so extra cash can go towards Dirac+DLBC which is on 20% sale for Black Friday. Nothing wrong with Audy which I prefer in my system, but many like Dirac.
Also - many other components to spend on, and investing in speakers will usually generate better returns.
Also - many other components to spend on, and investing in speakers will usually generate better returns.
Yeah it's insane value right now but since I don't have any external amps atm, I don't want to get a weaker amp section than I have right now in the 4400h even if it's only a minor downgrade.
I will buy Dirac in any case since it's the main reason I want to upgrade my AVR.
True but I'm currently happy with my speakers but yeah I want to get some atmos speakers at some point and I wanted to invest in some acoustic treatment.
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Hello,
I recently purchased a Dirac BassControl multi-sub license for my X6800H.
My configuration is 9.4.4 including a complete set of JBL Pro speakers (3x3153+4*3635+12*8320).
After several AB comparisons between Audyssey (speaker preset 1) and Dirac (speaker preset 2), Dirac is more qualitative : a front scene with more nuances and especially the voices. Dirac also gives more the impression that the speakers disappear. It sounds like the last time I tested StormAudio MKII in situ.
Nota: The Dirac calibration is automatically sent to speaker preset 2. However, you can load 3 distincts Dirac presets in this preset. Which makes a total of 4 EQ presets:
- speaker preset 1 with 1 Audyssey EQ
- speaker preset 2 with 3 Dirac EQs and 1 with Dirac EQ Off
I recently purchased a Dirac BassControl multi-sub license for my X6800H.
My configuration is 9.4.4 including a complete set of JBL Pro speakers (3x3153+4*3635+12*8320).
After several AB comparisons between Audyssey (speaker preset 1) and Dirac (speaker preset 2), Dirac is more qualitative : a front scene with more nuances and especially the voices. Dirac also gives more the impression that the speakers disappear. It sounds like the last time I tested StormAudio MKII in situ.
Nota: The Dirac calibration is automatically sent to speaker preset 2. However, you can load 3 distincts Dirac presets in this preset. Which makes a total of 4 EQ presets:
- speaker preset 1 with 1 Audyssey EQ
- speaker preset 2 with 3 Dirac EQs and 1 with Dirac EQ Off
