I have had quite a few avr and avp, when compared to my many 2 ch separates that cost significantly more, in direct mode they all performed well enough that I could live with any of them if I were to keep just one. It is too easy to imagine the 2ch separates performed audibly better, for the obvious reasons.I can’t help but tending to accept any conclusion towards stating that the typical quality of AV receivers/amps is far from what one might know from dealing with »normal« 2-channel HiFi audio equipment.
So far I had three of those AVRs, 1 Onkyo, 2 Denons – and none of them did satisfy me inasmuch as to recommend them to anybody else. Which is a shame – to the makers as well as to me
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Denon AVR-X6700H AVR Review (Updated)
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Yapp. But how often are AVR models used in direct/pure mode, typically?
As often as my 2ch separates dac+preamp+power amp. In fact maybe more often because I use mine with DLBC, PC standalone version. That's just me, ommv for sure.
I think if one is considering an integrated amp that comes with a build in midrange or lower end dac in the $2-3K price range, one can potential do better with an avr such as RZ50, AVR-X3800H, Cinema 50, RX-A6A even just for 2.1 or 2.2 use.
That is of course not an option for those who might insist on "form over function", to the extent that they just won't use a 5.1, 7.1, 11.1 AVR, and that is understandable, though imo not too practical.
AVRs are really great in terms of bang for the buck, and that has a lot to do with the often cited economy of scale factor vs the integrated and separates in the 2-5K (just as an examle) price range.
That is of course not an option for those who might insist on "form over function", to the extent that they just won't use a 5.1, 7.1, 11.1 AVR, and that is understandable, though imo not too practical.
AVRs are really great in terms of bang for the buck, and that has a lot to do with the often cited economy of scale factor vs the integrated and separates in the 2-5K (just as an examle) price range.
Hi everyone this is my first post. I have a question (probably a stupid one) about the measurement data from Amir (the one he refers to as our favourite graph with the preout voltage against distortion). The green line I believe is the case where he dials the volume knob up until preout voltage reaches 4.4. The red and blue lines are with voltage dialed up until 82.5 on the volume knob (2v). What I don’t understand is why the green line doesn’t overlap the red and blue line up until the 2v (82.5 volume) mark and then continue on from there. Instead the entire green line is shifted downwards below the red and blue. Can someone explain this to me. I have the 6700 and am trying to understand how it performs at higher pre out voltages since I am considering an nc500x two channel amp which has lower gains (I currently pre out to v3 monos from fosi which I believe I am likely driving into clipping at the 25.5 gain setting). My setup is Martin Logan xtf200/c100, two Martin Logan dynamo 1100x, four ml mp10s for height, and four Klipsch rp600 and two ml motion b10 for bed layer. Alll driven by 6700 plus three fosi v3 monos. Thanks a bunch and I hope I explained my question about the green line vs the red and blue we’ll enough.
Not quite like that, the red/blue curves are the case where he set the volume at 82.5 so that the output could reach 2.0 Vrms.
The green curve is the case when he set (he said: "turned up" and that might have confused you) the volume at 90.
In both cases, he varied the input level to get the corresponding output level with the volume setting fixed.
Shifted down because of the higher volume setting.
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Ok so what he was varying was the input signal from the audio precision rather than the volume (and did so for two different volume levels) until a voltage at the preouts was reached.
Correct, he has started to do it both ways, that is including the way you were thinking... take a look of the AV10 review:
Marantz AV10 AV Processor Review
This is a review and detailed measurements of the Marantz AV10 Audio/Video Processor (AVP). It is on kind loan from a member and costs US $7000. My picture doesn't do justice to the nice look of the unit. It is a massive step up from past Marantz AV products. I am still not a fan of the port...
www.audiosciencereview.com
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Hello. My Denon AVC 6700 ,year 2022,has a strange hissing humming noise when there is signal on pause and the volume is around 0. In Eco off mode it is louder. In Eco on mode it is not as loud. It's loudest when I'm using Stereo,Auro 3d, DTS neural. Does anyone have a Denon 6700 without EVERY noise and hiss?
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