Can't remember now, but with "Big Trouble in Little China", was it Lo Wang or Lo Han? In any case I like your new avatar, even if it will only exist for one or two posts. And I am looking forward to the remake of "Big Trouble in Little China" very much -- they better not screw it up (even if, in these times, it will be construed as very "politically incorrect").lo Wang
Anywhose, back on-topic . . . I was very concerned with this Denon AVR's (and hence Marantz's) reported very limited 1.1/1.4Vrms clean preout outputs until I remembered my intention wasn't ever to chain these AVRs directly to an amplifier. I always intended on using an integrated stereo preamp between them and my speakers for stereo music listening. So, for my bedroom (Marantz SR6014) and living room (right now, Marantz SR7012), the plan, at present, has always been to integrate a Parasound Halo HINT6 (bedroom) and an Anthem STR Integrated (living room) into their respective chains for stereo listening. Both setups currently use a separate stereo DAC, so even though these brands have their own DACs, I probably would never use them. But when I get these integrated stereo amps into their respective setups, I will never have to worry about this down-mixing issue when listening to stereo music (but, multichannel music listening still seems to remain problematic). However, I still hope Denon (and Marantz, which will probably show up with the same issue), can and will mitigate, if not fix, this issue with a firmware upgrade. However, I think Amir could be correct (I'm only an enthusiast and NOT an engineer) when he says that doing all this down-mixing and redirection of multiple channel sources into a lesser setup is a problematic issue. But, I still hope it can be done, and done adequately. Today's multiple channel AVRs (audio and video) have a whole lot of stuff to deal with and I never thought holding them to the same standards as a simple stereo DAC was exactly congruent or fair. Still, we all want the best that good engineering can do.
Looking very much forward to a review of the Marantz SR6014 -- you're going to think I'm crazy with what I want to do with this unit, if I decide to keep it in my setup.