Just speculation I've read online at AVS and other forums about why a lot of the Denon 3800/4800 lineup seem to prematurely get the red light of death, a lot of users indicate their receivers were running extremely hot before they went into permanent protection mode. Could be from a different reason certainly, but the low profile nature of these receivers, light amount heatsinks in these models and fans almost never turning on seems to be intuitively a possible cause.
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Denon AVR-X3800H Review
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X3800 owner here. No concern with claims of noisy fan. I don't hear it at all. Not concerned about heat related issues either because I'm running the AVR in Pre out mode and the AC Infinity cooling fan sitting on top of it hardly ever comes on.
I’m not aware of any 3800 heat issues either here or over at AVS. @jonfitch must be confusing current gen with prior gens?
Now you’re making stuff up! Are you equating the 3800 to early XBOX? Show me links for supposed “red light of death”!
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Well, I still have 3600 and 3700 in other rooms. No heat issues in my use, and never heard of any before.
jonfitch sounds eerily like hallucinating AI!
As noted, did not hear of thermal failure for this gen or previous gen of D&M AVRs. Their heat management is very well thought of in terms of failure - so they don't fail. It might have a different spin on longevity, but in today's consumer environment we just need to get accustomed to that.
Not that scientific then.
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Really? I thought it was only my LX305, which I bought extra cheap. I have reduced supply voltage to get rid of transformer noise.
Why would you ever do that as opposed to returning the product? AVRs are not supposed to have any transformer noise.
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I considered it, but since I had a ready solution, I left it. I would have to pay more for replacement.
And for those X3800 owners, for me it's realy important that:
1. auto on/off for digital sources
2. tidal connect/spotify connect works
3. chromecast works (plex)
4. No audible noise with soft music.
Point 4. is discussed a lot, but can anyone vouch for 1. to 3.?
Still contemplating since the Wiim room correction is doing great, but I'd like to play around with OCA's software.
Thanks
1. auto on/off for digital sources
2. tidal connect/spotify connect works
3. chromecast works (plex)
4. No audible noise with soft music.
Point 4. is discussed a lot, but can anyone vouch for 1. to 3.?
Still contemplating since the Wiim room correction is doing great, but I'd like to play around with OCA's software.
Thanks
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what exactly? afaik onkyo is notorious for micro issues and glitches
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3000/4000 series seem to be some of the most reliable avr from what i have heard with people. Even more reliable than 6000/7000 and flagship 8000/A series.
Anything that comes with individual Pcb for channels doesn’t seem to be as reliable in D/M models (speaking from experience).
Thats why i specifically bought the 3800 over the 4800h
And big thanks to @kawauso @peng and others who helped me in my decision, 3800h sounds fantastic
1 - Which digital sources via which connection? Auto on/off for what, ? The external device, or the 3800.
2 - Don't know - don't stream directly to Denon
3 - As 2
4 - I don't get any audible noise from the Denon.
2 - Don't know - don't stream directly to Denon
3 - As 2
4 - I don't get any audible noise from the Denon.
Sorry, unclear.
1. The denon auto on if I turn on the xbox or chromecast (toslink and hdmi)
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The trick is to raise the unit a bit so that more cool air can be taken in from underneath. And well, there's always the option of using the USB to which a big silent fan can be connected to. I use this method during the summer, it cools both my AVR and Switch 2
I use 4 of these under to raise it
"Concertmeister Baso exclusive legs for speakers and devices, vibration dampeners."
The cost was about 10 euro through amazon
I use 4 of these under to raise it
"Concertmeister Baso exclusive legs for speakers and devices, vibration dampeners."
The cost was about 10 euro through amazon
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Congratulations and thank you for the feed back on this value king AVR that is so feature rich, and price is still great even if you factor in a full Dirac License that includes ART, though in that case, it will be good to wait for the discounts they have been offering seemingly every few months. Based on our helpful members such as @Oddball and @kawauso (and others) who posted plenty of tips and graphs, almost like our resident tech support on ART. With ART, I am confident probably most people (always depend on their use cases) will be able to hear clearer sound quality overall. So, while it sounds good to you now, just keep in mind that you still have an upgrade path, one that is quite affordable when it is on sale.
I was confident the X3800H would sound as good as any AVRs for most use cases because I briefly owned the X1800H for a few months, and when used as preamp/dac it sounded really great. I sold it only because I wanted two independent sub outs for that two channel stereo system. The X3800H for some reasons, did not measure as good as the Cinema 50 and the X4800H, that is a "first" for a equivalent M model to beat the D model but I have a strong feeling that it was an just an outlier, or it might have been due to the way he did it that one time, wish Amir would have a chance to test a second sample as it might help to make SINAD chasers feel better if the second sample could do better. Regardless, even based on the lesser performance of the bench for that one sample, it is just a relative thing, as in absolute sense, the numbers would still indicate transparency.
Haha, great point!
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Here my comments:
Denon AVR-X3800H Review
But "7.07*7.07*8 = 400 W into 8 ohms" would only be achievable if the maximum output voltage from your simplified numerical example were doubled (i.e. 56.56 V). That is correct. The rail voltage of the avr-x4400, x4500H are >60 Vrms so I don't consider it volltage limited, but current...
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It was over 2 years ago, maybe Denon has improved firmware.
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