Denon AVR-X3600H AV Receiver Review

[rccarguy]

I didn't know that, so I guess they did thin in purpose to buy also a player...

AVR's have a audio player function, typically can play from USB stick, and points to DNLA service (NAS etc) to play local flac/vorbis/mp3 music, and radio stations.

If you want to play video files, you'll need either a BD player (for physical discs) Nvidia shield, or some kind of video box like amlogic/rockchip kodi boxes, or the available video players by bigger brands

 

[Vid33nyc1]

Hi all, so what is the optimal option here. I just upgraded to the reserve series and the r600 are rated at 87.5db sensitivity. Currently in a 5.2 setup and wondering if I should get a good 2 or 3 channel amp for the front stage and get more power to the r600s since they are a little harder to push. Even though I'm not using all the channels would the 11 channel hack work. The AVR seems to be doing a pretty good job so far but I feel I have to crank the volume up a bit more.

 

[Miker 1102]

You can buy that, or you can go even cheaper all the way down to a used X3300H. For stereo listening use, they are all basically the same. I have an x3500H as well as an x4300H. Zero reason to buy the x4800h unless you need sophisticated multi-subwoofer bass management, although it will have a higher quality feel with the metal faceplate and drop down front panel. The x3xxxH series is plastic and the knob feel crummier. If you want new and cheap consider this: https://www.adorama.com/indrx34.html?sdtid=17711397&emailprice=t. That's the current new value leader and would be highly recommended. I assume you're going to use Dirac or XT32. Used and no warranty, Denon is better IMO.

I will say, though, that the amps on these Denon do have a higher signal-to-noise ratio. It's probably not a significant concern and likely an inaudible difference, but they are remarkably quiet for an AVR. Anything that can beat .015& THD at 1W had some significant attention paid to noise.

Agreed.

 

[zanny]

Hi gang, I kinda regret purchasing an x3600h because at the time, I broke up with my girlfriend and moved in a rental house with a guy who had a projector and an even fancier AVR than me

So it was boxed up for a year or two, and now I'm finally using it properly, connected to a 65" OLED and my floorstanders. With the help of ChatGPT, I've figured out that assigning mode "Front B" allows me to use my Audiophonics MPA-250SC which is a small and well reviewed Class D amp. I just set this up yesterday.

So it seems since 2021, newer models support VRR and ALLM - But this doesn't matter if I plug my future Playstation 6 into my future 77" LG G5 OLED and send the audio via eARC, correct?

I have an apartment now, with big glass sliding doors, a small space, and no acoustic treatments. I either need acoustic panels and a rug and/or I've been thinking for a long time about the Lyngdorf TDAI 1120 as the next big upgrade (I haven't bought any audio gear for 2 years, now I have a mortgage).

The sound in my old solid brick apartment, with an inferior AVR (cheap Yamaha 5.1) but same floorstanders, sounded better than my current setup.

I just don't think Audyssey would cut the mustard, there are too many variables and with a subwoofer to calibrate as well. The rest of my setup is an Nvidia Shield, and some Focal on wall 301's as side surrounds. I'd like to get some heights as well.

But ChatGPT says the Lyngdorf is a stereo amp only, so I can't room correct my surround setup.

I asked ChatGPT what features newer models have now:

• Updated Audyssey (I don't think it's going to change much)
• More channels (don't have the space for that)
• Auro-3D (sounds great!, oh well)
• Higher wattage (I have the external amp for that)
• Better streaming apps (The shield does enough, and I'm buying a Synology NAS soon to stream FLAC)
• Better Dolby Atmos Height Virtualisation, IMAX enhanced (not dealbreakers)
• 8K Video Upscaling (If I can afford 8K, it's time for a new AVR)
• WiFi 6 (for firmware updates?)
• HDR10+ and Dolby Vision (handled currently by the Nvidia Shield, not the AVR)

Does this make sense?

 

[Sal1950]

I have an apartment now, with big glass sliding doors, a small space, and no acoustic treatments. I either need acoustic panels and a rug and/or I've been thinking for a long time about the Lyngdorf TDAI 1120 as the next big upgrade (I haven't bought any audio gear for 2 years, now I have a mortgage).

I'm a little lost by your question?
Nothing you can do in a gear change is going to correct for the audible problems you suffer from having no room treatment.
The very best digital room correction systems still aren't able to remove much of the reverberate problems.
Do as much as you can do in room treatment before spending any more funds on gear.
After that I might consider upgrading to Audyssey MultEQ X, for $200 I don't think you'll get more bang for your buck.

 

[krabapple]

I have an apartment now, with big glass sliding doors, a small space, and no acoustic treatments. I either need acoustic panels and a rug

yes, you do

and/or I've been thinking for a long time about the Lyngdorf TDAI 1120 as the next big upgrade (I haven't bought any audio gear for 2 years, now I have a mortgage).

The sound in my old solid brick apartment, with an inferior AVR (cheap Yamaha 5.1) but same floorstanders, sounded better than my current setup.

I just don't think Audyssey would cut the mustard, there are too many variables and with a subwoofer to calibrate as well.

I don't see why not. Your Denon is your preamp, and that's where room DSP works. Audyssey has always handled subwoofers.

But Audyssey -- or any other room correction DSP -- can't work miracles. A highly reflective environment like yours seems to be, needs some physical treatment. At least a decent rug e.g. "clipped pile carpet on thick felt underlay"

(An alternative would be very near field surround listening, where the room is less a factor. But even that may not mitigate the room enough.)

Maybe instead of asking ChatGPT, invest some time in a book like FLoyd Tooles' Sound Reproduction: The Acoustics and Psychoacoustics of Loudspeakers and Rooms to review principles. (Third edition, though apparently a fourth, significantly updated edition is coming out next year)