Denon AVR-S670H

[MaxwellsEq]

I've also thought of the possibility of maybe the AVR is being pushed a little too hard and over a period of time to amplifier gets warm and that's when the sound intermittently degrades

Most amplifiers are designed to operate consistently over a wide temperature range. Loudspeakers on the other hand CAN get over-warm and distort when used loud for long sessions. Perhaps that's the problem.

 

[Captorofsin]

Most amplifiers are designed to operate consistently over a wide temperature range. Loudspeakers on the other hand CAN get over-warm and distort when used loud for long sessions. Perhaps that's the problem.

All I can state honestly as that I never drive my speakers hard.

 

[Chrispy]

What should I do? Leave it the settings the way the room correction left it or go with AVR manufacturers recommendations? I don't know what their recommendations are.

All speakers have same sensitivity and are same distance from your primary seat? You'll usually need some level and delay adjustments....

 

[Captorofsin]

WIsh the OP had acknowledged reading tis post, which has the best advice in the thread.

And ffs, stop referencing/depending on Crutchfield.

I agree with you about crutchfield. I get on chat with crutchfield and the representative tells me one thing, and I get on line and I find an article that's actually written by crutchfield that saying the exact opposite.

I was chatting with a crutchfield representative and he told me that Denon AVR have a "Bright" sound signature. Then I I go web surfing and found an article (that was actually on crutchfield's website) stating that Denon is on the neutral/warmer side.

That has taught me that the only thing I should be doing on crutchfield's website is shopping (not asking for advice).

 

[Chrispy]

I agree with you about crutchfield. I get on chat with crutchfield and the representative tells me one thing, and I get on line and I find an article that's actually written by crutchfield that saying the exact opposite.

I was chatting with a crutchfield representative and he told me that Denon AVR have a "Bright" sound signature. Then I I go web surfing and found an article (that was actually on crutchfield's website) stating that Denon is on the neutral/warmer side.

That has taught me that the only thing I should be doing on crutchfield's website is shopping (not asking for advice).

LOL when a dealer starts using terminology like that to describe an amp, their credibility is gone with me, and would be same even if they only took one position with a particular brand like that....

 

[Captorofsin]

All speakers have same sensitivity and are same distance from your primary seat? You'll usually need some level and delay adjustments....

Both surround speakers, left speaker, and right speaker are 88 DB. Center is 89 DB.

I figured the distance setting was/ is for delay.

One thing I can't wrap my head around. It's probably a simple answer. Even though my surround speakers are literally half the distance away that my front speakers are, why is the sound level on my surround speakers louder (by .5 DB)? Seems like surround speakers (because they are closer to MLP), would be set much lower than my mains.

 

[Chrispy]

Both surround speakers, left speaker, and right speaker are 88 DB. Center is 89 DB.

I figured the distance setting was/ is for delay.

One thing I can't wrap my head around. It's probably a simple answer. Even though my surround speakers are literally half the distance away that my front speakers are, why is the sound level on my surround speakers louder (by .5 DB)? Seems like surround speakers (because they are closer to MLP), would be set much lower than my mains.

Room acoustics perhaps, maybe just needs a re-run of Audyssey. How do they sound in actual use?

 

[Captorofsin]

Room acoustics perhaps, maybe just needs a re-run of Audyssey. How do they sound in actual use?

Everything sounds good, but I really don't have anything to compare it to.

I have the room correction completely off. Right now I have guest in from out of town (turkey day). As soon as I get some time I want to sit down and watch another episode of SWAT and see if I can hear that "crackly" sound in the mail voices.

 

[Chrispy]

Everything sounds good, but I really don't have anything to compare it to.

I have the room correction completely off. Right now I have guest in from out of town (turkey day). As soon as I get some time I want to sit down and watch another episode of SWAT and see if I can hear that "crackly" sound in the mail voices.

Audyssey is generally pretty good at setting basic levels/delays (distance) but sometimes you just re-run it if results are odd. Are the surrounds placed oddly or not directly towards the ears? I'd use more than just a tv show....

 

[Captorofsin]

Audyssey is generally pretty good at setting basic levels/delays (distance) but sometimes you just re-run it if results are odd. Are the surrounds placed oddly or not directly towards the ears? I'd use more than just a tv show....

I know ideally that the surrounds should be closer to the MLP. It's just that I have a couple of cats and I really don't want my wharfidel speakers being used as scratching posts .

 

[Captorofsin]

Audyssey is generally pretty good at setting basic levels/delays (distance) but sometimes you just re-run it if results are odd. Are the surrounds placed oddly or not directly towards the ears? I'd use more than just a tv show....

Since I do not own a Blu-ray player, I will probably wind up streaming a prime movie with lots of effects.

I will also stream SWAT again. Have nothing to lose

 

[Chrispy]

I know ideally that the surrounds should be closer to the MLP. It's just that I have a couple of cats and I really don't want my wharfidel speakers being used as scratching posts .

Since I do not own a Blu-ray player, I will probably wind up streaming a prime movie with lots of effects.

I will also stream SWAT again. Have nothing to lose

Could be the placement somewhat. Streaming just isn't the best way to go....

 

[Captorofsin]

Could be the placement somewhat. Streaming just isn't the best way to go....

Im my personal opinion prime beats the heck out of Netflix or Hulu. I think Max is pretty good also.

I I do decide to purchase a Blu-ray, where could I rent Blu-ray discs?

 

[Captorofsin]

Happy turkey day everyone .

I have combed through This conversation looking for a reply that I got.

It was to the effect explaining to me since I had a powered subwoofer and the main speakers are set to "small" and crossed over at 80 Hertz, that I really did not need a super high powered AVR.

 

[Owl]

Some public libraries still have CD's and DVD to check out.

 

[krabapple]

Happy tricky day everyone .

I have combed through This conversation looking for a reply that I got.

It was to the effect explaining to me since I had a powered subwoofer and the main speakers are set to "small" and crossed over at 80 Hertz, that I really did not need a super high powered AVR.

Exactly right.

 

[Captorofsin]

I sure hope that Amazon some deals on AVRs and the two TCL televisions I'm eyeballing

 

[Captorofsin]

LOL when a dealer starts using terminology like that to describe an amp, their credibility is gone with me, and would be same even if they only took one position with a particular brand like that....

I have read folks going back and fourth about receiver sound signatures. some folks say its a myth, other folks swear by it. I honstly dont know.

For when I eventually swap out my AVR, I was entertaining the idea of possibly switching to another brand (Yamaha, Marantz, or Onkyo). That's why I was enquiring about sound signatures.

Read good things about Yamaha and Denon. I've also read that marantz is more geared towards music than HT.

Based on what I've read, it looks to me like Onkyo is "entry level high-end"

 

[Chrispy]

I have read folks going back and fourth about receiver sound signatures. some folks say its a myth, other folks swear by it. I honstly dont know.

For when I eventually swap out my AVR, I was entertaining the idea of possibly switching to another brand (Yamaha, Marantz, or Onkyo). That's why I was enquiring about sound signatures.

Read good things about Yamaha and Denon. I've also read that marantz is more geared towards music than HT.

Based on what I've read, it looks to me like Onkyo is "entry level high-end"

I have five avrs in the house currently. I don't find any of them have such a "signature" in general; their dsp/room eq functions can be different, tho. Same for power amps, have several of those and haven't found they have a particular signature either (let alone changing the avr's ). The Marantz being more "musical" is nonsense, they're largely the same as their sister brand Denon, just marketed to try and take advantage of the old Marantz reputation from way before current owners. My Onkyo isn't particularly special, but is an older Audyssey equipped one. Your room and speakers are where the sound diffferences will largely be....

 

[Captorofsin]

Which channel crackles? Is it the center? If so try bringing that one up a bit, to -5.0 dB and then check for crackling again. I expected to see them have extra gain rather than cuts (I'm assuming that's what the - in the display means), but worth a shot.

What if I were to set the center channel and sub to even "0", set the front (L/R) to 2db, and set the surrounds to 2.5?

Just take the lowest (-7) and set to "0". Set all other speakers relative to "0".