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Denon AVR-A10H 13.4-Channel Receiver announced!

a $300 receiver will not sound the same as a $5,000 AVR or a $4,000 pair of separate pre/power amp. Point of diminishing return likely is applicable here too, and I'll just stop right here.
I see no reason for that to be true. Our own host has recently stated that he would have never bought his Mark Levinson monoblocks with the knowledge he has today. He would be fine with a cheap chinese chip amp:

In my case, much more power. My monoblock amplifiers produce 800 watts per channel. But no way can I justify their $25,000 cost. They of course came out 15+ years ago. Today, i would by a Hypex/Purifi amplifier if I wanted lots of power. I would buy Topping if my needs were more modest. And if I wanted to save money, one of many chip based budget amplifiers.
His next post is even more telling:

I should add that there are many expensive amplifiers that don't produce more power, but do inject tons of distortion and noise. Yet costs a lot more. These amps, other than visual appeal, provide no sonic value.
 
I see no reason for that to be true. Our own host has recently stated that he would have never bought his Mark Levinson monoblocks with the knowledge he has today. He would be fine with a cheap chinese chip amp:


His next post is even more telling:

Let me give you just the main reasons I can immediately think of (there are potentially more:
- a $300 receiver typically would have limited output voltage and/or current needed to drive many speakers that have average sensitivity of say 85-90 dB and impedance between 3-8 ohms in the bass/mid bass range, some might have large phase angles too that such receivers don't usually have output devices and heat sinks to deal with the thermal issues

- It may have distortions in the certain frequency range within the audible band, and/or at the very low output levels as well as at the higher frequency range where many people may be quite sensitive to.

Regardless, I can see your point, I should have avoided making a generalized statement, and I usually would have qualified it by caveats like (when unless operating in output level well below it's clipping point, with no DSP used etc. etc.). For some reason I generalized, as I was comparing it with a $5,000 AVR and in my mind, people who use such near flagship level AVRs likely have speakers that wouldn't do their best if driven by a $300 receiver.

It is hard to find any 2 channel receiver for $300 anyway, so it seems like I could use the Onkyo SR3100 that is a 5 channel AVR. That little thing can do 80 WPC into 8 ohms but it costs $399 on Amazon.
 
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As long as the amplifier is not clipping, and has a linear frequency response, the rest doesn't really matter. You can get hiss with some cheap PA amplifiers, but that is still not what constitutes bad sound quality.

The latest thread on the matter, ASR is in agreement

 
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As long as the amplifier is not clipping, and has a linear frequency response, the rest doesn't really matter. You can get hiss with some cheap PA amplifiers, but that is still not what constitutes bad sound quality.

The latest thread on the matter, ASR is in agreement

For me, your link produces this result:

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Why are you saying that ASR is in agreement when that is the result of accessing the link? It become difficult to give your posts much credibility.
 
The point is that you talk about big audible differences between electronics, when there in fact is none. Try blind testing next time

WOW the daily double, a combination of audio virtue signaling combined with the Wizard sending Dorothy for the broom.

If you believe blind testing will prove your point, then please, by all means, produce valid blind test results.
 
Sorry but the link still does not work?

But I did have a sight of that threat before and my point is that we yet to see the longevity and reliability of these amps that seem to be great sounding - at the present. IMO the price is the cost over the average useful life.

I do own a Chinese TV and it is spectacular, but I bought it with a view of 3 years life expectancy as things tend to move very quickly in that area. I would not really want to change the amps as frequent as that.
 
System assembled and playing beautifully.

Spectacular receiver !!!
 

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Very impressed with the calibration of the Audyssey XT32 + App $20. It's very good for both movies and music.
I exported two different filters for preset 1 and 2. So far I don't feel the need to use DL.
The acoustics of the room also improved significantly after the wood panel with rock wool was finished.
I took the opportunity to line two screens on the side of the room with rock wool.
There's another absorbing panel behind the sofa. The room is almost ready in terms of acoustics.

I closed the screen with TNT fabric. It turned out really well.

Waiting for another acoustic panel to arrive to hang on the wall behind the sofa.
 

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Perfect Sunday to listen to a vinyl with a good wine!

Greetings to all!
 

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The App Editor is a must-have tool for anyone using the Audyssey XT32.
Yesterday I finished with the room acoustics and today I did a new calibration with eight points using the App Editor + tripod.
The result was incredible for both movies and music.
All old calibrations are saved in the App and can be sent to the Receiver at any time.
I saved today's calibration as Cinema2.
I sent two different graphs for Preset 1 and 2 of the A10H
 

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I received the good news that my sub SVS SB 12 NSD has a repair. It should be ready in two weeks.
Good that I'll be able to test two subs in my living room.
The JLAudio D110 does a great job for both music and movies.
It can fill the room very easily and with less than half the volume.
 

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