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[respice finem]

As a seasoned optimist (=pessimist) I think there might be reasons to sell the SF on the cheap...

 

[Svend P]

as they are both superb speakers

Sonus Faber has not made a well measuring speaker ever.

I couldn't find measurements of the Serafino, but here is the Sonetto V G2. This is not good. The Revels are end-game. Add subwoofers if you want to improve your system

 

[sfgumshoe]

As a seasoned optimist (=pessimist) I think there might be reasons to sell the SF on the cheap...

Seller says he’s upgrading to SF (Amati?) G5s

 

[mglobe]

Sonus Faber products are furniture that make sound. Not particularly good sound. They have a well earned reputation for having an uneven and overly bright frequency response. Run away…

 

[sfgumshoe]

Sonus Faber has not made a well measuring speaker ever.

I couldn't find measurements of the Serafino, but here is the Sonetto V G2. This is not good. The Revels are end-game. Add subwoofers if you want to improve your system

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Interesting

Thanks

 

[staticV3]

Interesting

Thanks

FYI, here are some other brands whose high-end speakers I'd avoid:

Triangle
Dali
Monitor Audio
B&W

Plus like 90% of the usual suspects that you see reviewed on Stereophile.

If you want the best possible sound quality with a budget like yours, then consider:

Kii Three + BXT
Ascilab C8C + BX8C
GGNTKT M3

And if it must be passive:
Ascilab C8T
KEF Reference
Perlisten
Arendal

 

[Cote Dazur]

I welcome your comments

I say go for it, you only live once, plus you are not burning money, you say you can buy them at a great discount, so really you are saving money.
Looking forward to see them in your amazing dedicated music space, as nothing else less than that will do, or they would look out of place.

 

[DonH56]

I’ve got a pair of Revel performa 228BE speakers less than a year old, which are great.

But I have found a pair of Sonus Faber Serafino G2‘s less than two years old heavily discounted in perfect condition within easy driving distance. If I sell the Revels and buy the Sonus Fabers, it will probably be a net outlay of about $12,000.

While I fully intend to audition the Sonus Fabers, in the long run I doubt I will really notice that much of a difference as they are both superb speakers.

I fear I am falling pray to upgrade fever, not to mention that I think the Sonus Fabers are quite beautiful to look at.

I welcome your comments.

I'd stick with the Revel 228Be's as the better speaker. However, I would not want you to be talked out of doing something you really want to do, so to help you out I am more than happy to provide my contact information so you can send me the extra $12k you are so anxious to disburse.

 

[Soandso]

I’ve got …less than a year old, which are great.…I doubt I will really notice that much of a difference…I fear I am falling pray to upgrade fever ….

Fellow ASR member recently distilled the issue thusly:

 

[IngMishael]

my normal reaction will be you're wasting money which is the actual truth if you're for balanced presentation but seems you're smitten by the aesthetics of the Sonus Faber (can't blame you)

So the decision imo is up to you but seems your mind is already made up

 

[Mr. Widget]

While I fully intend to audition the Sonus Fabers, in the long run I doubt I will really notice that much of a difference as they are both superb speakers.

While it is super easy to make the purely objective case for not "upgrading", there are often other compelling factors in making this type of decision for all but the true propeller heads. That said, I wouldn't make the decision based on a single audition in an unfamiliar room. Is there anyway you can bring them home and listen to them for a day or two?

 

[solderdude]

Audition in your own home.
Then decide.
There is no other way.

Other people's opinions are just opinions.
Their home and preference may not be the same as your home and your preference.

 

[kharan]

Sonus Faber does some wild things.

source https://erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/sonus_faber_luminaii_amator/

 

[Mart68]

Had a listen to Stradaveri G2 at a show with all Macintosh electronics. Big room in a mansion, not a hotel room. Not unimpressive in a lot of ways but not remotely worth that kind of money.

You say you're going to demo first so I reckon you will hear why they're not worth it.

 

[MarkS]

And if it must be passive:
Ascilab C8T
KEF Reference
Perlisten
Arendal

Revel F228Be

 

[kemmler3D]

Looks like an expensive downgrade to me, good suggestions already for better speakers inside the budget, and if you need to improve the look of the room you can probably get some pretty decent oil paintings for the cash too.

4 subs and something to run Dirac ART would also be a nice upgrade and comfortably inside the budget.

I totally understand the appeal of a hot deal but I've seen Salon 2s for less, this is just a large percentage discount on something wildly overpriced, not actually a good value.

 

[xanalog]

Seller says he’s upgrading to SF (Amati?) G5s

There is your answer: Convince him to buy your old Revels, after an invite to audition them first.
Then buy a NEW pair of Revels with the money that seems to be burning a hole in your pocket.
Just sayin'!

 

[OldHvyMec]

You have capable speakers, but you chose to add to the issue instead of addressing the real problem for probably 500.00-2K tops.
THE ROOM!

If you like nice-looking things (like the speakers you're looking at), make sure that the room treatment has some eye-catching features just for you. What is the purpose of having a few nice things if you can get a whole lot more for a whole lot less?

We really can have our cake and eat it too. BUT sometimes it's not a slice of cake; it's a whole pie!

Regards

 

[pablolie]

All I'll say this is a perpetual audio hobbyist story. You have something, but something "higher end" tempts you because it must be an improvement (and *looks* the part), right? Then you get it, you do your best to convince yourself it's better... but eventualy your brain and hearing admit the cheaper previous component sounded the same or even better. Dang.
I think most of us looped the loop eventually chasing the dream of "more money, more incremental gains".
But now, with real world measurements far more available, at least to me it's intellectually inadmissible to fall prey to that temptation.
Admittedly one complication is that many of those more esoterically priced audio jewelry devices never get tested throroughly (other than occasionally on Stereophile), so it's not easy to do that thorough mesaurements comparison... and before anyone says anything, I am the first to say that perfect measuring graphs don't totally dominate my decisions, I know my preference deviates some from total and complete flatness and linearity by a small margin - but measurements let me see what falls into the domain I personally prefer.
I used to have a far more expensve rig than I have now, but I am far happier with what I have at 1/8th the expense - it's far more balanced for my environment and music listening.