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Dayton Audio HTA20 Hybrid Tube Amp Review

Rate this amplifier:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 147 90.7%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 12 7.4%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Total voters
    162
I voted "great" because it seems to delight buyers and because I think the designers knew exactly what they were doing. Cranking up negative feedback might "fix" it, but at the expense of sounding like any other decently-designed amplifier.
 
The frequency response isn't even adequate for AM radio LOL. What a piece of sh*t.
 
Far off from DIN 45500... Wow, this is beyond my acceptance capability, and you know I love tubes.
Thanks for this interesting review, @amirm ! ;)
 
I was reading this thinking "this seems pretty passable if you want to hear what a tube amp sounds like on the cheap" until we get to the frequency response graphs. That's just shocking. Complete fail.
Same. I was actually thinking of giving it a "Fine" until I saw that horrendous FR :facepalm:
 
Dayton amp is already down -0.5dB at 5kHz!! That's two octaves below where the amp you're comparing it to starts to droop, and the low frequency rolloff on the Dayton is already down 0.5dB at 100Hz - that's 2.5

it may look like a significant difference on the graphs, but if you make an EQ change, that 0.5db difference is not audible at all, and 2 or 3db difference at the ends is audible, but nothing major. Thats why i called it 'exaggerated tube amp' sound . As someone already said that for older folks looking for a tube amp sound, it might be exactly what they’re looking for.
 
Graphs can looks scary, but i suggest thata anyone who wants to hear how it really sounds make the same EQ change

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It is actually nothing major and can be totally enjoyable.
 
When I saw the THD+N I thought, "now this is a tube amp!" And to the designer's credit they go for the open chassis look so they can fully rock the glowing bulbs in the dark thing. The low output impedance is typical as well. Means all kind of unpredictable interactions with the impedance curve of the loudspeakers they are driving. And some people probably regard it as more of a feature than a bug. I think that characteristic alone accounted for 90 percent of the amp-churning among high end audiophiles in the 1980's and 1990's as they looked to find the perfect serendipitous synergy between their TAS recommended tube amp and their TAS recommended loudspeakers so as to deliver audio nirvana to their living rooms. Yep, talking about using amps as EQ devices for people for eschewed EQ because they believe it 'severely smeared the signal', even while putting a sound effect generator in their signal path coloring everything in the same way a squirt of Ghirardelli chocolate syrup would color every sip of your morning espresso. So all in all the typical tube mess, one sect of the audiophile world seems to venerate highly even today. To each his own.

But the true deal breaker (even for them) on this unit is the drastically rolled off FR at each extreme. I suppose if you're old and can't hear anything above10k hz, the -4.5 db roll off at 20 k hz makes no difference. Likewise, if you're also listening to some kind of mini-monitor whose response falls off a cliff below 100 hz, you might not even notice the bass roll off either. So for deaf old guys with mini-monitors who love to bathe in the golden tube glow of ultra high 2nd harmonic distortion, this might just be their amp. And apparently lots of them write reviews for Amazon.

Thanks for being a better reviewer than those deaf old geezers, Amir.
 
I consider the performance of the Aiyima T20 Tube pre-amplifier as measured recently by Amir to be 'respectable'.
Yeah, just checked. Respectable indeed.

Though not a lot of inputs.
 
Yeah, just checked. Respectable indeed.

Though not a lot of inputs.

Yes, a bare minimum of inputs. Enough to add tubes to the signal path, given the convenient inclusion of 12 volt trigger I/O - if so desired.

Props to Aiyima for offering a 'tube option' to recommend instead of most (all ?) of the tube gear I have been asked to comment on.
 
It's easy to add (analog) inputs. :)


I even have a little Philips-branded switch box (Harvard, MA town dump swap pile find) with a remote control to switch between inputs! :cool:
 
heh, I even found it! It is labeled Philips, but it is a sticker on the bottom, no logo on the facade. :confused:

Also, I thought it had a remote, but I didn't see it tonight when I went spelunking for the switch. :facepalm: It is powered (with a wall wart) and the switching is electronic, so it's a bit more sophisticated (for better or worse) than the usual options. ;)

Saw this modest little "Pelican" branded one in my exploring tonight, too. Another dump find. ;)
DSC_0193(2a) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

... and... ahem... there's always the nuclear option.


 
Graphs can looks scary, but i suggest thata anyone who wants to hear how it really sounds make the same EQ change

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It is actually nothing major and can be totally enjoyable.
Yup, just slightly down at 5 kHz, with -3dB @ ~16 kHz, it's a pretty gentle tone control, and somewhat forgiving of peakier speaker / room frequency response. I imagine that there are a lot of people have no interest or desire in purchasing a measurement mic, or learning to use REW.
 
Could you do better job with that tiny output transformer? The transformer is what makes tube power amp performance. It makes no sense to produce such a small tube power amp. Other than "tube sales" rule.
Stereo from one transformer? Hahaha. It doesn't even have power tubes so it is NOT a tube amp. It is a tube preamp with some ****** non performant solid state power stage.
 
Just...why? Why would you make a tube amp, botch the design then sell for $130 smth? Apparently it sells well on Amazon, which boggles the mind.
 
Waste of time to listen to Music with this hybrid amplifier. Quite obvious it is an hybrid design, as you do not modulate 20 watts of power through those tiny tubes. It is a sure pass. For a slightly higher price I can get a serious amplifier from SMSL or Topping.
 
Yeah, just checked. Respectable indeed.

Though not a lot of inputs.
Any decent Mcintosh or Audio Research would be at an SS ballpark, for many decades now with decent continuous (and I mean continuous) power figures as well.
Others as well, but strange stuff DO exist as well.

Sometimes the need to get your own "sound" as a company is a very deep rabbit hole.
 
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