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DAP with replaceable battery

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Please recommend me a basic digital audio player with replaceable battery and good battery life. I don't need anything powerful, fancy or with bluetooth/wireless functionalities.
 
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Hi @easylistening! Welcome to ASR.

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Please recommend me a basic digital audio player with replaceable battery and good battery life. I don't need anything powerful, fancy or with bluetooth/wireless functionalities.
To drive what? If you tend to go with efficient low impedance high SPL/V headphones/IEM's you are better with a deacent smartphone not cut a lot and able to give 500 mV out, if you are in mid efficiency and impedance tire then a DAP or smartphone that can give 2 V preferably still unbalanced. If you want to drive high impedance low efficiency obviously more but don't use gear that's not meant to be portable as it. With smartphone in the middle and as player you have software DSP capabilities advantage and streaming services support of course and most of it works and over BT so you might also go for a deacent budget LDAC BT small receiver with a deacent DAC and such can be found for as little as 50 $/€ this day's. Of course replaceable batteries are ancient history and if you want one that doesn't pull much electricity and give 2 V or close so that battery life is good then something based on CS43131 DAC.
 
To drive what? If you tend to go with efficient low impedance high SPL/V headphones/IEM's you are better with a deacent smartphone not cut a lot and able to give 500 mV out, if you are in mid efficiency and impedance tire then a DAP or smartphone that can give 2 V preferably still unbalanced. If you want to drive high impedance low efficiency obviously more but don't use gear that's not meant to be portable as it. With smartphone in the middle and as player you have software DSP capabilities advantage and streaming services support of course and most of it works and over BT so you might also go for a deacent budget LDAC BT small receiver with a deacent DAC and such can be found for as little as 50 $/€ this day's. Of course replaceable batteries are ancient history and if you want one that doesn't pull much electricity and give 2 V or close so that battery life is good then something based on CS43131 DAC.
I'll mostly be playing vocals into earphones at low-mid volume; although I may buy the Aune AR5000 in the future. I'd prefer if the device had analog input for skipping tracks although that isn't essential.
 
For Aune AR5000 ideal is 2 V unbalanced output stage, they certainly don't need more being 108 dB/V (and 28 Ohms).
As DAP's generally aren't great and only one I used to recommend is long time discontinued by now (Hiby R3 Pro with 2x CS43131). So your best bet are either cheap dongle DAC or BT reciver (with LDAC and USB audio input) based on CS43131 DAC (for performance and battery life/efficiency). For example Hiby W3 II BT, Tempotec Sonata HD Pro dongle DAC. Of course you need a smartphone to play content in any of those cases. Entry level DAP's start about 200 $/€ but I can't recommend ESS based Hiby R3 Pro Sabre for considerable worse battery life.
Reason for so much Hiby based recommendations is for software (Hiby Music) all do competition like FiiO is catching up (slowly).
Aune AR5000 seams premium build looking. Consider Sennheiser HD 560S (budget proposition) or new HD 490 Pro (more premium one and hopefully price will go down a bit with time) as similar open back's with little more confirmed tuning and usually very good fit and comfort. In any case be sure to try headphones before purchase or buy from the place that accept returns with minimal lose for you.

Didn't really understand your whish for analog input? It's more about 3 button remote on headphone cable. For example Apple USB dongles support it (and microphone input) but won't give 2 V output (1 V US versions and 0.5 V EU one's) and while they are cheap they won't last you for very long time.
 
For Aune AR5000 ideal is 2 V unbalanced output stage, they certainly don't need more being 108 dB/V (and 28 Ohms).
As DAP's generally aren't great and only one I used to recommend is long time discontinued by now (Hiby R3 Pro with 2x CS43131). So your best bet are either cheap dongle DAC or BT reciver (with LDAC and USB audio input) based on CS43131 DAC (for performance and battery life/efficiency). For example Hiby W3 II BT, Tempotec Sonata HD Pro dongle DAC. Of course you need a smartphone to play content in any of those cases. Entry level DAP's start about 200 $/€ but I can't recommend ESS based Hiby R3 Pro Sabre for considerable worse battery life.
Reason for so much Hiby based recommendations is for software (Hiby Music) all do competition like FiiO is catching up (slowly).
Aune AR5000 seams premium build looking. Consider Sennheiser HD 560S (budget proposition) or new HD 490 Pro (more premium one and hopefully price will go down a bit with time) as similar open back's with little more confirmed tuning and usually very good fit and comfort. In any case be sure to try headphones before purchase or buy from the place that accept returns with minimal lose for you.

Didn't really understand your whish for analog input? It's more about 3 button remote on headphone cable. For example Apple USB dongles support it (and microphone input) but won't give 2 V output (1 V US versions and 0.5 V EU one's) and while they are cheap they won't last you for very long time.
How do you try out headphones?
What should you be looking for besides comfort?
What are some common ways that sound you hear may differ from what you would expect from a frequency response graph?
Besides listening to a sine wave and your use case what else should you test?

The only earphone I've tried and found offensive was the Tin Hifi t2 as the treble/sibilance was painful.

Some MP3's are touchscreen input without volume or sound buttons. I'm excluding those.
 
How do you try out headphones?
What should you be looking for besides comfort?
What are some common ways that sound you hear may differ from what you would expect from a frequency response graph?
Besides listening to a sine wave and your use case what else should you test?

The only earphone I've tried and found offensive was the Tin Hifi t2 as the treble/sibilance was painful.

Some MP3's are touchscreen input without volume or sound buttons. I'm excluding those.
It's not all that easy to try them out and sometimes ain't possible to do so. If you have developed preference you read about it from someone who has a similar preference along with measurements. You look for; fit, comfort, seal, low distortion, sensitivity, build quality and of course FR. Main thing is that highs are alright and nothing is to much of from what you desire in the first place.
Distortion, enclosure refractions.
I don't listen to tone generator or white noise, I might if I feel something is really off. I listen to material (music) that I know wery good for various aspects and again if I subjectively feel something is off to test it. You should test response to EQ and use EQ to improve response of course. Sometimes even small variation in FR can sound very different for bad and good like mid bass boost as example of a bad one. Didn't find Tin T2 offensive bright, bit in front, tiny, definitely bass shy but not bad with EQ... Definitely not a best sounding IEM's but very strong build and good for recreation where you expect them to hit the floor from time to time.
Back to beginning in this time and age a lower or mid tire Android phone (Qualcomm SoC based) with 3.5 mm out and SD card support paird with good software like Hiby Music / Wavelet and 16~32 Ohms sensitive (115 or more dB/V where 0.5 V is plenty) earphones/headphones will do the job very good and on the long run. Of course you still won't have a replaceable battery but you can pick a brand where such thing is easier to do (iFix-it based).
Even basic Samsung IEM's that come with the phones or old Sony MH755's with EQ sound pretty nice and that's in cuple bucks category. So in short if you didn't use EQ start to do it and have reason not to demand something unrealistic (open back's with harman bass or pushing sub bass from those that can't do it) and you will be fine. I genuinely don't use IEM's on the long run, sometimes when I do work outside with loud machines I do and that's about it. On the go my favourites still are Creative aurvana Air earbuds for surrounding awareness especially in summer time, have a Denon AH-D5200 headphones as last purchase which are OK when I have to use headphones in the first place. It's safe to say this day's I am pretty much speakers guy (80% of time) and a bit lucky that I can do that (deticated room sound isolated from the rest of the house and good and not too many neighbours). Tho a bit compulsive - obsessive when it comes to DSP (not that I like to do it often, just comprehensive and to the end).
 
Take a look at the iBasso devices. They’re excellent, you can sped as much as you want, and they have replaceable batteries (which the manufacturer actually has for sale ans seems to be committed to their devices long term, so not just a gimmick)
 
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