They have to fight his sidekick Ron from NRD for them. He is so far up Danny's wazoo...
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Danny at GR getting bad Talk Back from many of his viewers
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Well, Danny and Ron have finally released their new speakers. The way they have gushed about them, you would think they are the greatest speakers of all time!
These speakers have a magic bullshit Shunyata Research Harp device in them.
I would really like Amir or another competent reviewer to take these speakers apart and measure them.
These speakers have a magic bullshit Shunyata Research Harp device in them.
I would really like Amir or another competent reviewer to take these speakers apart and measure them.
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Not sure if there was a thread or mention anywhere, but Danny decided that improving an Ascend speaker was a great idea, and Danny apparently managed to deliver such an epic failure that it completely overshadows his past 'achievements', which is pretty amazing given the vast extent of his past failures....
Watching just the GR clip, it might seem half decent, but Dave's answer on page 3 and 4 illustrate how much of epic a failure Danny managed to deliver. Just skimming the thread, davef got his hands on Danny's 'crossover':
- for nearly $500 for the 'upgrade', you just get a bunch of uncut norez, tubes which don't fit the cabinet, bit of solder, a schematic and crossover PARTS, without a board or instructions, and you need to build the crossover yourself, which barely fits in the cabinet given its overly large components..
- ignoring performance (or lack of thereof), you get a simpler crossover that is entirely inadequate for the RAAL tweeter, which will damage the tweeter. But nevertheless, dave will measure Danny's masterpiece with modern measuring equipment, which Danny lacks.
This new epic and historic saga is still ongoing.
I guess this bit sums up well the Danny/GR Research upgrade fiasco:
In all honesty, when I saw GR Research's video on Ascend upgrade I knew this would be good, but even after years of Danny/GR Research isms, seems like that might be the worst we've seen yet. I mean, selling a $500 kit which will damage your tweeters... It's big, even for Danny and GR Research, if that's not a wake up call for his followers... (but who am I kidding, no saving those people...)
(And btw, I'm sure those RAALs are not cheap at all ... Ah, they offer ribbon replacements, which might be another fun project to go along the GR Research crossover 'upgrade'... But even the replacements ribbons are expensive...! Plus, imagine if you fixed them, they'd just break again a while after because of the 'upgraded' crossover... Ouch...)
Watching just the GR clip, it might seem half decent, but Dave's answer on page 3 and 4 illustrate how much of epic a failure Danny managed to deliver. Just skimming the thread, davef got his hands on Danny's 'crossover':
- for nearly $500 for the 'upgrade', you just get a bunch of uncut norez, tubes which don't fit the cabinet, bit of solder, a schematic and crossover PARTS, without a board or instructions, and you need to build the crossover yourself, which barely fits in the cabinet given its overly large components..
- ignoring performance (or lack of thereof), you get a simpler crossover that is entirely inadequate for the RAAL tweeter, which will damage the tweeter. But nevertheless, dave will measure Danny's masterpiece with modern measuring equipment, which Danny lacks.
This new epic and historic saga is still ongoing.
I guess this bit sums up well the Danny/GR Research upgrade fiasco:
In all honesty, when I saw GR Research's video on Ascend upgrade I knew this would be good, but even after years of Danny/GR Research isms, seems like that might be the worst we've seen yet. I mean, selling a $500 kit which will damage your tweeters... It's big, even for Danny and GR Research, if that's not a wake up call for his followers... (but who am I kidding, no saving those people...)
(And btw, I'm sure those RAALs are not cheap at all ... Ah, they offer ribbon replacements, which might be another fun project to go along the GR Research crossover 'upgrade'... But even the replacements ribbons are expensive...! Plus, imagine if you fixed them, they'd just break again a while after because of the 'upgraded' crossover... Ouch...)
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Just read every bit of this thread......I leave feeling Sad of all things.
To think there may be some individuals buy this and use it and have no idea, that Danny is a better Salesman than an actual crossover designer/engineer.
He knows just enough to fool, those that do not know a "lot"
And when someone argues that Distortion is not a big deal, or does not matter, you just know they are foolish.
In his latest video about his new speakers (the ones he developed with NRD Ron), Danny makes some amazing claims. Such as, his speakers for vocals are as good as any speaker at any price.
I called him out in the comments, saying sarcastically these were the best speakers in the world, and that they had a bullshit magic Shunyata device in them.
Danny replied "The proof is in the pudding". To which I replied, "send them to an independent reviewer".
Let's see if and what he replies.
I called him out in the comments, saying sarcastically these were the best speakers in the world, and that they had a bullshit magic Shunyata device in them.
Danny replied "The proof is in the pudding". To which I replied, "send them to an independent reviewer".
Let's see if and what he replies.
He does that all the time. Shame youtube software leaves no indication of this.
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Oh gawd, now Danny has a new video up, attempting to "School" Dave F. about how wrong he is in many of his criticisms of Danny's Crossover "upgrade".
Could not even bear to watch it all, as it appears somewhat childish how he attacks people that know more than he does.
Danny still believes "In Room response" and distortion are "just not that big a deal", Damage control basically.......and semi laughable.
Could not even bear to watch it all, as it appears somewhat childish how he attacks people that know more than he does.
Danny still believes "In Room response" and distortion are "just not that big a deal", Damage control basically.......and semi laughable.
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Ah yes, Danny -- who has designed speakers ranging from "okay enough I guess" to "laughably bad" but mostly just sells tubes and sheets of vinyl and foam -- is definitely qualified to school someone who designs actually good speakers for a living.
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I found a GREAT comment, bet it will be gone within 5 minutes......
I know for sure he removes a lot of negatives!"More curious now, Danny, why not just SHOW the distortion measurements Before/After instead of a "schoolyard" fight saying "He is wrong, I know more!!" over and over. Dave had some Very well thought out criticisms, but you are just saying he is "Wrong" over and over. Do you truly believe he has no clue what he is doing or is this how you handle "Damage control" and criticism??"
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I love how he claims to make no money on his "upgrades"......laughable. But then takes a great amount of time to defend them.
So are we to understand, he is using his valuable time to do a Free benefit, with no profit margins what so ever??
Not convincing at all.
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Well... he could make a living as a YouTube influencer -- and offer his products at a pass-through price as a public service.I love how he claims to make no money on his "upgrades"......laughable. But then takes a great amount of time to defend them.
So are we to understand, he is using his valuable time to do a Free benefit, with no profit margins what so ever??
Not convincing at all.
He... could...
Almost all of Danny’s latest youtube is littered with whining about how limited his production is and how he cannot keep up with demand. He calls out the Uberbuss and that they only made 10 originally and have not made many more. Talk about exaggerated scarcity. That product was announced last December. How long has he been in business and really cannot manage this apparently overwhelming demand?
He also pitches all his new speakers. All of which are “next level” of course. His main differentiation between seems to be price and the harp thingy snake oil. The Shuntaya harp thingy is described as a current diffractor that lowers noise and does so by reducing current resonances. Seems it also defies physics so be prepared to be transported to another dimension too lol!
Just for reference, am including the following from Jack Sharkey of KEF…
“Cables are distributed elements and, therefore react like an infinite number of inductive elements, which in turn makes the resonant frequency of the cable go to infinity Hz. Simply put: Speaker cables don’t resonate in the audio range.”
How long has he been in business and really cannot manage this apparently overwhelming demand?He also pitches all his new speakers. All of which are “next level” of course. His main differentiation between seems to be price and the harp thingy snake oil. The Shuntaya harp thingy is described as a current diffractor that lowers noise and does so by reducing current resonances. Seems it also defies physics so be prepared to be transported to another dimension too lol!
Just for reference, am including the following from Jack Sharkey of KEF…
“Cables are distributed elements and, therefore react like an infinite number of inductive elements, which in turn makes the resonant frequency of the cable go to infinity Hz. Simply put: Speaker cables don’t resonate in the audio range.”
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I watched his video. Interesting that he says cables create resonances. He measures resonances in speakers. But somehow can't with cables???
FYI, Dave contacted me and sent me this letter from RAAL saying Danny's mod is improper.
Please tell Dave (or if he's reading this) to make his pictures publicly viewable so people don't have to create an account to see them. Keeping the photos behind a login limits visibility and reduces awareness. I couldn't even see the PDF until you posted them here, which defeats the purpose if we're trying to warn others about this.
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I "think" what Danny is trying to claim, is that his more simplistic on axis ONE measurement, is more accurate based on the Klippel being ABLE to average from multiple directions, but that is VERY over simplifying how it all works.
I am not well enough versed in how the Klippel works to explain a good way, how Danny is wrong, but I know for sure the Klippel averages show a more representative picture of what a speaker is producing.
He is arguing that the "Room Response" is not important, based on all rooms are different, which is Somewhat true, but it is meant to be an average, not an all encompassing set in stone curve......I think he is merely twisting things to create an outcome to his diehard fans to show HE is still relevant, but he is not truly.
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