Daniel Hertz-Anton speakers

[Pearljam5000]

Anyone identifies the driver?
15 inch coaxial driver

 

[Palmer]

Well, for the advertised price around 40k - I'd go Tannoy, and get some more goodies on the side. Tried and true. And it is yet another Mark Levinson venture I can do without.

 

[mhardy6647]

The odd surround configuration (only two "rings"/pleats) isn't familiar to me... but this B&C 15" coax looks kinda, sorta similar, albeit with an undoped (or differently doped?) cone.

B&C 15CXN88 15" Neodymium Coaxial Speaker 80 x 80 Degree

B&C 15CXN88 15" Neodymium Coaxial Speaker 80 x 80 DegreeB&C Speakers' 15CXN88 15" coaxial driver combines a powerful woofer and high output horn tweeter into a convenient compact package. By using a massive neodymium motor, B&C allowed enough space to use a huge 3-1/2" voice coil on the woofer...

www.parts-express.com

Leave it to Mark Levinson to add the dope.

EDIT: Eminence & Radian also offer 15" coaxes with no horn per se (a la Tannoy -- and the B&C above -- where the woofer cone becomes the - ahem - waveguide for the treble driver), but they have more conventional accordion pleated surrounds on the woofer cone.
See the listing of coax drivers at, e.g., https://www.usspeaker.com/homepage.htm (I cannot easily link to individual drivers on that site, sorry!)

 

[MAB]

The odd surround configuration (only two "rings"/pleats) isn't familiar to me... but this B&C 15" coax looks kinda, sorta similar, albeit with an undoped (or differently doped?) cone.

B&C 15CXN88 15" Neodymium Coaxial Speaker 80 x 80 Degree

B&C 15CXN88 15" Neodymium Coaxial Speaker 80 x 80 DegreeB&C Speakers' 15CXN88 15" coaxial driver combines a powerful woofer and high output horn tweeter into a convenient compact package. By using a massive neodymium motor, B&C allowed enough space to use a huge 3-1/2" voice coil on the woofer...

www.parts-express.com

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Leave it to Mark Levinson to add the dope.

The new 15CXN88 has dual-pleat.

15CXN88 8Ω - Coaxials - B&C Speakers

www.bcspeakers.com

Parts Express seems to have the wrong picture, instead showing a 15CXN76.

As the marketing blurb says, "Based on new pro audio speaker driver technology, Anton’s 15” woofer with coaxial compression driver tweeter simply won’t come near clipping with even the most demanding recordings."
I tend to agree the customer won't likely want to operate these near clipping.

For $760 per driver, I have to pass on the Antons' massive markup. Most DIY struggle with complex cabinets with many openings and good-looking grilles. Seems like Daniel Hertz also struggles with these things, resulting in his DIY cum Levinson product.

I wonder if these use B&C's crossover for $135 each:

FBCXN88 8Ω - Crossovers - B&C Speakers

www.bcspeakers.com

Or if they opt for some wonky 6dB/octave electrical crossover with fancy caps and coils, perhaps even some cryo action.

 

[mhardy6647]

The new 15CXN88 has dual-pleat.

15CXN88 8Ω - Coaxials - B&C Speakers

www.bcspeakers.com

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Parts Express seems to have the wrong picture, instead showing a 15CXN76.

As the marketing blurb says, "Based on new pro audio speaker driver technology, Anton’s 15” woofer with coaxial compression driver tweeter simply won’t come near clipping with even the most demanding recordings."
I tend to agree the customer won't likely want to operate these near clipping.

For $760 per driver, I have to pass on the Antons' massive markup. Most DIY struggle with complex cabinets with many openings and good-looking grilles. Seems like Daniel Hertz also struggles with these things, resulting in his DIY cum Levinson product.

I wonder if these use B&C's crossover for $135 each:

FBCXN88 8Ω - Crossovers - B&C Speakers

www.bcspeakers.com

Or if they opt for some wonky 6dB/octave electrical crossover with fancy caps and coils, perhaps even some cryo action.

Thanks!!!
US Speaker's site looked like a two-ring pleat, but I opted for PE's link & images 'cause it was easier -- and I am nothing if not lazy!

B&C 15CXN88 is a 15" coaxial speaker - B&C 15CXN88 15" coaxial speakers - B&C 15" high power lightweight neodymium magnet coaxial speaker for fullrange systems and stage monitors. B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speakers available now.

B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speaker for replacement or upgrade. The B&C 15CXN88 is a 15 inch coaxial speaker with 1,000 watts program power handling. The B&C 15CXN88 is a high quality coaxial speaker. A complete line of B&C speakers for DJ’s, Bands, and Sound Reinforcement. B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speakers...

usspeaker.com

B&C 15CXN88 is a 15" coaxial speaker - B&C 15CXN88 15" coaxial speakers - B&C 15" high power lightweight neodymium magnet coaxial speaker for fullrange systems and stage monitors. B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speakers available now.

B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speaker for replacement or upgrade. The B&C 15CXN88 is a 15 inch coaxial speaker with 1,000 watts program power handling. The B&C 15CXN88 is a high quality coaxial speaker. A complete line of B&C speakers for DJ’s, Bands, and Sound Reinforcement. B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speakers...

usspeaker.com

https://www.bcspeakers.com/en/print/coaxial/15-0/8/15cxn88

I guess the markup is for that incredibly exquisite cabinetry in the case of the Anton, eh?

 

[MAB]

Thanks!!!
US Speaker's site looked like a two-ring pleat, but I opted for PE's link & images 'cause it was easier -- and I am nothing if not lazy!

B&C 15CXN88 is a 15" coaxial speaker - B&C 15CXN88 15" coaxial speakers - B&C 15" high power lightweight neodymium magnet coaxial speaker for fullrange systems and stage monitors. B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speakers available now.

B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speaker for replacement or upgrade. The B&C 15CXN88 is a 15 inch coaxial speaker with 1,000 watts program power handling. The B&C 15CXN88 is a high quality coaxial speaker. A complete line of B&C speakers for DJ’s, Bands, and Sound Reinforcement. B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speakers...

usspeaker.com

B&C 15CXN88 is a 15" coaxial speaker - B&C 15CXN88 15" coaxial speakers - B&C 15" high power lightweight neodymium magnet coaxial speaker for fullrange systems and stage monitors. B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speakers available now.

B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speaker for replacement or upgrade. The B&C 15CXN88 is a 15 inch coaxial speaker with 1,000 watts program power handling. The B&C 15CXN88 is a high quality coaxial speaker. A complete line of B&C speakers for DJ’s, Bands, and Sound Reinforcement. B&C 15CXN88 coaxial speakers...

usspeaker.com

https://www.bcspeakers.com/en/print/coaxial/15-0/8/15cxn88

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I guess the markup is for that incredibly exquisite cabinetry in the case of the Anton, eh?

It looks like a fun project for $1500 plus some wood for cabinets.
Nice that B&C provides such complete measurements. Hertz does not provide any, no surprise.

 

[bmc0]

Poor Anton... Why must Daniel hert him?

 

[Flaesh]

For $760 per driver,

$1 078,13\pcs - quite affordable driver for DIYing desktop speakers https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...8-point-source-full-range.60035/#post-2201632

 

[HiMu]

Anyone identifies the driver?

Looks a lot like https://sica.it/prodotto/15-cx-3-pl/

Edit:
Similar diy version has been around for almost 10 years with B&C coaxials

Kaiutinrakennusohje Piste - 8-, 12- ja 15-tuumaiset hifi-PA-koaksiaalit - AudioVideo

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audiovideo.fi

 

[DanielT]

Looks a lot like https://sica.it/prodotto/15-cx-3-pl/

Edit:
Similar diy version has been around for almost 10 years with B&C coaxials

Kaiutinrakennusohje Piste - 8-, 12- ja 15-tuumaiset hifi-PA-koaksiaalit - AudioVideo

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audiovideo.fi

More likely than B&C 15CXN88. Check and compare the screw hole design:

 

[AaronJ]

Guys, the markup is for the "positive health impact."

 

[Pearljam5000]

40,000 is actually cheap
The M1 costs €400,000(with the Amp)

 

[mhardy6647]

Looks a lot like https://sica.it/prodotto/15-cx-3-pl/

Edit:
Similar diy version has been around for almost 10 years with B&C coaxials

Kaiutinrakennusohje Piste - 8-, 12- ja 15-tuumaiset hifi-PA-koaksiaalit - AudioVideo

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audiovideo.fi

well... it looks like it, at any rate.
That looks like a darned cool coax.

apropos of nothing
Sica... I've got a couple of DVC Sica subwoofers in my... umm... subwoofer. Not sure if they were regular production or one-offs (ahem, two-offs, I suppose). Their provenance is a little complicated...

 

[Waxx]

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40,000 is actually cheap
The M1 costs €400,000(with the Amp)

And it's not even good build the drivers are not rececessed (should be done at least for the mid for diffraction reasons) and that tweeter and horn looks like a very generic cheap plastic thing. Even if it's not, for that price you expect a better look (I do certainly)

 

[Pearljam5000]

And it's not even good build the drivers are not rececessed (should be done at least for the mid for diffraction reasons) and that tweeter and horn looks like a very generic cheap plastic thing. Even if it's not, for that price you expect a better look (I do certainly)

 

[Flaesh]

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It would be nice to see this covered with black carpet, like old hairy JBL JRX series.

 

[mhardy6647]

It would be nice to see this covered with black carpet, like old hairy JBL JRX series.

Totally! They would be  awesome in the back of the pickup truck!

 

[mhardy6647]

... or tufted Naugahyde!

 

[mhardy6647]

 

[KSTR]

Many years ago there was this, a large kit based on the Beyma 15XA38Nd:

The 15XA38Nd is well suited for HiFi because it has quite a soft suspension and low resonance frequency which allows use of smaller boxes (relatively speaking) and still get enough low bass.

€40k for the Anton is a tough call and not justified IMHO, even for an Italian and totally handmade product in low quantities. And you get flat response from it only when using the proper DSP plugin in the amps they sell. Meh.