• WANTED: Happy members who like to discuss audio and other topics related to our interest. Desire to learn and share knowledge of science required. There are many reviews of audio hardware and expert members to help answer your questions. Click here to have your audio equipment measured for free!

Dan Clark NOIRE X Headphone Review

Rate this headphone:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 8 3.5%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 74 32.6%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 142 62.6%

  • Total voters
    227
This is a review, listening tests, detailed measurements and optional EQ of Dan Clark Audio (DCA) NOIRE X closed back headphone. It was sent to me by the company and costs US $999.99.
View attachment 409634
This is one high quality and gorgeous headphone. It is more compact and lighter than my daily driver, the DCA E3 which I appreciate. It comes with a very flexible and nice (silicone?) cable with just the right length for desktop use.

As with the last few reference quality headphones from DCA, the NOIRE X uses "meta material" to tune the response of the headphone. Development process included evaluation with both GRAS 45CA (same fixture I have) and B&K 5128 (one that I evaluated). Some of the tuning is informed because of this dual testing. I will comment on this in the measurement section.

I received the headphone about a week ago and have been listening to it and only measured it tonight. I found the headphones very comfortable to wear for many hours on end. The automatic fitment works well. I believe work has been done to make sure the headphone is more resilient to how one wears the headphone.

DCA NOIRE X Measurements
As usual, we start with our headphone frequency response measurements. Fitment on the fixture was easily achieved:
View attachment 409635
On my 45CA fixture, high level compliance is good but we have localized areas of deviations. As some of you know, there is no official target response for 5128 fixture. DCA has adopted its own (based on Oratory DF?) and using that, they don't see the two deviations I have marked. They performed sweep listening tests and feel that the 5128 response is closer to what they hear. I will address this when I EQ the headphone in the listening test section.

Here is the differential relative to our target:
View attachment 409636
Other than the peak at 4.7 kHz to the tune of 3.7 dB, the rest are quite minor and would easily fall in the "error bars" of the research for target curve.

There is more distortion than previous reference level headphones from DCA:
View attachment 409637
View attachment 409638
As noted though, at 94 dBSPL, distortion remains quite low in the rest of the spectrum. Specifically, it hugs on "0%" line quite closely from 2 to 5 kHz where our hearing is most sensitive.

Of note, DCA found that the GRAS 45CA measurements show less distortion than that of 5128, indicating the microphones in the fixture itself has lower distortion.

We see a couple of reflections causing non-minimum-phase response in Group Delay but otherwise, we have the typical clean response from DCA:
View attachment 409640

Impedance is very low at just 13 Ohms:
View attachment 409641

It is flat though as you see so source impedance won't change frequency response.

It is more sensitive than other DCA reference headphones which is nice:
View attachment 409642
Quickly switching from E3 to NOIRE X resulted in noticeably higher volume. This will open up a lot more headphone amplifiers that can drive the NOIRE X.

NOIRE X Headphone Listening Tests
As I noted in the introduction, due to being overwhelmed with work, I just listened to the NOIRE X and did not measure it. Immediate impression going from E3 to it was total familiarity with perhaps, the high frequencies standing out just a bit. Post this measurement, I brought out the EQ to examine the audible effect of deviations I see in the frequency response:
View attachment 409643
I had to dial down the bass filter at 111 Hz as the predicated deviation while nice on some tracks, took the impact away from bass heavy tracks. With the reduced amount, you have a tighter bass response while still having 80% of the impact. The sum total of the rest of the filters gave me the impression of more separation of instruments though the effect is very subtle.

Above was sighted. In ad-hoc blind testing, I guessed correctly only 1 out of 3 as to which was stock and which was the EQ! So the effect is quite small and subtle. In that sense, I don't think I can make a strong case that these deviations are real. At the same time, I can't say they are not either. To wit, I am listening with the EQ on.

Listening to music is a delight with performance that is both familiar and superbly high fidelity.

Conclusions
When DAN Clark brought the "meta material" innovation to headphones with the Stealth, the improved performance was real but so was the $4,000 price tag. We all wished for lower cost headphone which they delivered with E3. But at $2K, still quite expensive. Now we have an under $1,000 headphone that delivers all that technology in a compact packaging. It has a bit more distortion but perhaps with a tuning that some like better. I know the comfort is there as I prefer to wear it for long hour listening sessions.

Subjective experience of NOIRE X is stellar: every reference track I played put a smile on my face. It feels like I am wearing super high quality, full range studio monitors strapped to each ear! Objective data backs that, pleasing both sides of my brain!!

It is my pleasure to recommend the DCA NOIRE X.

------------
As always, questions, comments, recommendations, etc. are welcome.

Any donations are much appreciated using: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/how-to-support-audio-science-review.8150/

Just out of curiosity. When you EQ headphones. Do you put them back up on the rig and measure them again, since you have the opportunity to do that? To see if they align up to the Harman target.
Not for this particular set of headphones. But for ones that are more wonky like, let’s say the Audeze LCD-X.

Thanks
 
So I've had these headphones for about three weeks. Ran the JDS Labs burn-in test the first couple of days before listening. Here are my constructive thoughts coming from AEON 2s (also had an AEON 1 before that):

1) The Spatial qualities of the Noire X are a noticeable step up from the Aeon 2s. There are tracks with my Aeon 2 where it's hard to pinpoint where some front facing sounds are coming from while on the Noire X you can very specifically tell the location.

2) Noire X bass has more punch and better control. It's a nice improvement and it's not overdone so as to negatively impact any classical music or pieces that aren't bass heavy.

3) Noire X has a more engaging sound signature but I noticed some elements in tracks become de-emphasized as a result. You can still hear those sounds but you really have to be paying attention and it can kind of change the tone of a piece. Aeon 2 presented what I felt like a very neutral presentation where everything was balanced very well which really let some complex songs with many elements shine. I'm currently awaiting my JDS Labs element IV to see if I can't EQ these headphones to have a more neutral presentation (Any tips on this would be welcome).

4) The headband is uncomfortable to me. It is not pleasant to wear for periods longer than 1 hour. I actually swapped out the headband with the one from the AEON 2 and it completely fixes this issue, although I'm not sure I can keep it like this given I want to be able to use my Aeon 2s as well.

Side note: I had purchased a crescent strap but the one I received was missing a button. Currently have a replacement on the way but pretty dissapointed in the quality (holes for buttons appear to be very crudley cut, no sewing around them to prevent ripping over time) and that they charged me shipping for a replacement despite the error being on their end. Honestly at this point I'm likely to just return the Crescent snap and ask DCA if I can't just buy a replacement Aeon 2 headband so I can have one on my Noire X and Aeon 2.

5) My ears touch the meta-material, which causes discomfort. I measured how much ear space the Noire X has compared to the Aeon 2 (from baffle to the top of the pad) and the Noire X has 16-17mm clearance while the Aeon 2 has 25mm. Certain spots of the meta-material on the Noire X jutt out a bit so the actual clearance to a given part of the ear might be a bit lower than that 16-7mm figure. Suffice to say, I believe the Noire X should accomodate at the very least the average huge ear size range, which is 10mm - 20mm from the head.

6) The metal headband (the structural one that connects the two cups) vibrates far too easily. I can be tapping my finger on my jaw and hear the headband generate noise from vibration. Tapping on the cup and especially any contact with the metal headband will cause it to vibrate and generate noise for notable period of time.

This one is also fixed by installing the Aeon 2 headband. I believe this is because the clamping of the AEON 2 headband clips prevents vibrations. I suspect the issue could be fixed by adding a bit of rubber between the metal rods and the yoke. That metal to metal contact is what allows vibrations to transfer so freely.

7) The cable is a big step up from last gen. I can't hear any microphonics and it appears to be more resistant to twisting. Prior fabric covered DUMMER cables always seems to twist themselves up over a couple a years. The right channel wire on my Aeon 2 broke due to this twisting. The only critique I have of the new cable is that the splitter tends to catch on desks. I still prefer my Corpse Cable as the splitter does not catch (they also have fantastic support).

Hopefully all this information is useful to the community and DCA.
 
Last edited:
So I've had these headphones for about three weeks. Ran the JDS Labs burn-in test the first couple of days before listening. Here are my constructive thoughts coming from AEON 2s (also had an AEON 1 before that):

1) The Spatial qualities of the Noire X are a noticeable step up from the Aeon 2s. There are tracks with my Aeon 2 where it's hard to pinpoint where some front facing sounds are coming from while on the Noire X you can very specifically tell the location.

2) Noire X bass has more punch and better control. It's a nice improvement and it's not overdone so as to negatively impact any classical music or pieces that aren't bass heavy.

3) Noire X has a more engaging sound signature but I noticed some elements in tracks become de-emphasized as a result. You can still hear those sounds but you really have to be paying attention and it can kind of change the tone of a piece. Aeon 2 presented what I felt like a very neutral presentation where everything was balanced very well which really let some complex songs with many elements shine. I'm currently awaiting my JDS Labs element IV to see if I can't EQ these headphones to have a more neutral presentation (Any tips on this would be welcome).

4) The headband is uncomfortable to me. It is not pleasant to wear for periods longer than 1 hour. I actually swapped out the headband with the one from the AEON 2 and it completely fixes this issue, although I'm not sure I can keep it like this given I want to be able to use my Aeon 2s as well.

Side note: I had purchased a crescent strap but the one I received was missing a button. Currently have a replacement on the way but pretty dissapointed in the quality (holes for buttons appear to be very crudley cut, no sewing around them to prevent ripping over time) and that they charged me shipping for a replacement despite the error being on their end. Honestly at this point I'm likely to just return the Crescent snap and ask DCA if I can't just buy a replacement Aeon 2 headband so I can have one on my Noire X and Aeon 2.

5) My ears touch the meta-material, which causes discomfort. I measured how much ear space the Noire X has compared to the Aeon 2 (from baffle to the top of the pad) and the Noire X has 16-17mm clearance while the Aeon 2 has 25mm. Certain spots of the meta-material on the Noire X jutt out a bit so the actual clearance to a given part of the ear might be a bit lower than that 16-7mm figure. Suffice to say, I believe the Noire X should accomodate at the very least the average huge ear size range, which is 10mm - 20mm from the head.

6) The metal headband (the structural one that connects the two cups) vibrates far too easily. I can be tapping my finger on my jaw and hear the headband generate noise from vibration. Tapping on the cup and especially any contact with the metal headband will cause it to vibrate and generate noise for notable period of time.

This one is also fixed by installing the Aeon 2 headband. I believe this is because the clamping of the AEON 2 headband clips prevents vibrations. I suspect the issue could be fixed by adding a bit of rubber between the metal rods and the yoke. That metal to metal contact is what allows vibrations to transfer so freely.

7) The cable is a big step up from last gen. I can't hear any microphonics and it appears to be more resistant to twisting. Prior fabric covered DUMMER cables always seems to twist themselves up over a couple a years. The right channel wire on my Aeon 2 broke due to this twisting. The only critique I have of the new cable is that the splitter tends to catch on desks. I still prefer my Corpse Cable as the splitter does not catch (they also have fantastic support).

Hopefully all this information is useful to the community and DCA.
I’m pretty surprised you found the AEON more to lay accurate… that said were you using the optional filters with it, e.g. white felt? I can probably help you eq if I know a little more about how you were using the other headphone. NX will clear most ears but yes, there is less clearance.

I am not trying to be flip when I say this but not tapping on the headphone is probable the solution to the band ringing. We have tested this carefully and there is no ringing induced by music. We do have a little clip designed that can solve this if there’s interest. IMHO the biggest application would be for walking about.

If you do prefer the A2 strap we can always provide one and some sliders, it wouldn’t be expensive if you prefer that hack. 90% of feedback is NX is easier and more comfortable to fit but YMMV…
 
I’m pretty surprised you found the AEON more to lay accurate… that said were you using the optional filters with it, e.g. white felt? I can probably help you eq if I know a little more about how you were using the other headphone. NX will clear most ears but yes, there is less clearance.

Thank you very much for the reply!

Sorry if some part of my comment was confusing, I was comparing to the AEON 2 throughout (no filters or mods). I wouldn't say the Aeon 2 is more accurate but more neutral. The Noire X is just all around better than the AEON 1 IMO (other than the comfort for me). I would greatly appreciate any EQ recommendations.

For my Aeon 1s I used the white filter.

Regarding the clearance, I noticed that there are screws for the meta-material. Would it be safe to remove the meta-material to gain clearance?

I am not trying to be flip when I say this but not tapping on the headphone is probable the solution to the band ringing. We have tested this carefully and there is no ringing induced by music. We do have a little clip designed that can solve this if there’s interest. IMHO the biggest application would be for walking about.

That's fair IMO, I was just providing that feedback to potentially help future product design. I did not hear any ringing that was introduced by music.

If you do prefer the A2 strap we can always provide one and some sliders, it wouldn’t be expensive if you prefer that hack. 90% of feedback is NX is easier and more comfortable to fit but YMMV…

By A2 strap you mean the soft strap that comes with the Aeon 2 correct? If so I would absolutely be willing to pay for that.

I should clarify, my impression of the Noire X sonically is very positive in case my comment above came off as overly negative. My goal was to provide information that would be helpful to improving future products. I know one person's account doesn't mean much but I am a long time DCA customer and want to see you guys continue to do well :)
 
Thank you very much for the reply!

Sorry if some part of my comment was confusing, I was comparing to the AEON 2 throughout (no filters or mods). I wouldn't say the Aeon 2 is more accurate but more neutral. The Noire X is just all around better than the AEON 1 IMO (other than the comfort for me). I would greatly appreciate any EQ recommendations.

For my Aeon 1s I used the white filter.

Regarding the clearance, I noticed that there are screws for the meta-material. Would it be safe to remove the meta-material to gain clearance?



That's fair IMO, I was just providing that feedback to potentially help future product design. I did not hear any ringing that was introduced by music.



By A2 strap you mean the soft strap that comes with the Aeon 2 correct? If so I would absolutely be willing to pay for that.

I should clarify, my impression of the Noire X sonically is very positive in case my comment above came off as overly negative. My goal was to provide information that would be helpful to improving future products. I know one person's account doesn't mean much but I am a long time DCA customer and want to see you guys continue to do well :)
Definitely do not remove the metamaterial, it will undo tuning.

For a2 strap pm me please, not sure how you plan to fit it?

I’m not quite clear on what you want to accomplish with eq. To my ear Noire x is considerably more neutral than other aeon so in that sense I don’t know where to start… if you pm let me know your goal, e.g. warmer or cooler midrange, brighter or softer top, or if you can, specify frequencies of interest.

One possibility for the comfort regarding AMTS… You could put a piece of the 2 mm thick acoustic tuning foam above the AMTS, it will kind of cling to the grill cloth of the speaker diaphragm. This will increase your contact, but it will also make it very soft and for the occasional person who has had contact issues on any of our headphones sometimes creating a soft surface is sufficient. For that you can just pick up one of the Aeon tuning kits that has black foam in it… that will also reduce highs by about 1db.

Glad you enjoy it and thanks for the feedback!
 
Last edited:
Ha, removing the metamaterial! :facepalm:
 
Is this headphone also super different sounding head from head? I am somewhat interested in it but have zero opportunities to demo where I live so I don't know how much the measurement would apply to what I would hear.
 
Is this headphone also super different sounding head from head? I am somewhat interested in it but have zero opportunities to demo where I live so I don't know how much the measurement would apply to what I would hear.
Impossible to know. The thing that gives me pause are the smaller cups/pads than E3's, thus depending on the ear size less positional variation. If the position doesn't seal/sound good you can't move them around like E3.

But maybe they will sound great in the normal position.

Edit: DMS measured both Noire X and E3 - cup size. Noire X has also less bass than E3 while more highs, so I would EQ them.
 
Last edited:
Is this headphone also super different sounding head from head? I am somewhat interested in it but have zero opportunities to demo where I live so I don't know how much the measurement would apply to what I would hear.

Headphones.com has a review that shows you the variation from different test heads:

I cannot say if it is an abnormal variation though given this is the first time I've seen them do it this way.
 
Is this headphone also super different sounding head from head? I am somewhat interested in it but have zero opportunities to demo where I live so I don't know how much the measurement would apply to what I would hear.
It shouldn’t be, the smaller pad reduces positional effects. Sean Olive demonstrated this with his aeon tests, Noirex is similar.
 
Impossible to know. The thing that gives me pause are the smaller cups/pads than E3's, thus depending on the ear size less positional variation. If the position doesn't seal/sound good you can't move them around like E3.

But maybe they will sound great in the normal position.

Edit: DMS measured both Noire X and E3 - cup size. Noire X has also less bass than E3 while more highs, so I would EQ them.


To be honest I don’t get 99% of headphone reviews since they never take into account EQ.
Either a headphone sounds right or doesn’t.
The Harman curve isn’t by accident.

Sure there are variations from person to person. But either the freq are ‘ at the right target’ to reproduce music correctly or it’s not.

E.g the Audeze LCDX sounds like A$$ without substantial EQ.
So when I see any review on that headphone without EQ saying it’s great is kinda a blatant lie.

Truth is, that every headphone can benefit from some sort of eq. Just from everyone’s different ear anatomy.
 
Last edited:
To be honest I don’t get 99% of headphone reviews since they never take into account EQ.
Either a headphone sounds right or doesn’t.
The Harman curve isn’t by accident.
That may well be true on a personal basis but is not universally true.
  • Harman target (or any target for that matter) only satisfies the majority of users not all users. There is nothing wrong with preferring or not preferring that target.
  • Seal and constructions that limit seal for some users can alter how someone hears it.
  • positional changes can alter the sound
  • pad-wear can alter the sound
  • L-R matching tolerance/variance can change some perception aspects, not only FR
  • measurements made on a fixture are only accurate to the standard the fixture complies to. There is a lot of variance in pinnae and ear canal geometry and a standard may differ from real life situations.

Sure there are variations from person to person. But either the freq are ‘ at the right target’ to reproduce music correctly or it’s not.
There are multiple targets and they are all bases on some artificial ear(canal) geometry and a mic with a constant response.
Which target is universally correct for all cases ... and why would that be ?

E.g the Audeze LCDX sounds like A$$ without substantial EQ.
I bet some people may use it without EQ and love the sound to bits so its a personal thing.

So when I see any review on that headphone without EQ saying it’s great is kinda a blatant lie.
That's the problem with reviews. One can never know the motivations for writing any positive reviews with absolute certainty.
Also if a reviewer has financial gain (gets to keep models or other perks) or wants to keep or increase receiving gear to get more income/viewers chances are even crappy stuff gets positive reviews. The latter one could see as a blatant lie.
Could also be the reviewer simply likes what he hears or listened to it long enough (and not reset the brain to good standards) for the brain to accept the presentation. Could also be that seal happens to be correct for that reviewer.

Truth is, that every headphone can benefit from some sort of eq. Just from everyone’s different ear anatomy.
Yep, exactly my point. Meaning there is no perfect headphone for all. Just that a majority of people may prefer its sound.


Then there is the price, comfort (not to be underestimated), use case dependent stuff like isolation, (cable) microphony, build quality, the 'feeling' one has handling/wearing it, serviceability (padding), longevity.
When the sound is 'perfect' but comfort is crap, the price is absurd, the thing breaks within months of normal usage then what is the 'perfect' sound worth ?

Then we have the can of worms of the huge variability of tonal balance in recordings combined with the preference for a certain genre and/or listening SPL (equal loudness contours).
To tackle this I am a huge proponent of bringing back the usual always quickly accessible Baxandall tone control (bass and treble only).

Add to that headphones having a deviating response for specific purposes that may well work for some purpose (out of the box, without EQ) but are less suited for music enjoyment (without EQ).


in the end....

The 'perfect' headphone does not exist but there are plenty of headphones that sound excellent to an owner (with or without EQ) in nearly all price ranges and use cases.
For that a wide variety of headphones must exist and reviews and measurements can assist narrowing a choice down (if one trusts reviewers or understands all required measurements).

I am sure many of Dan's creations in general (and the Noire X) will do well on the sound quality and comfort front but not everyone, if only for the price.
The limited ear space would be an area that could be improved upon for sure, it would bother me but others have no issues with this. There are plenty of people loving the MDR-7506 with its 14mm thickness and don't complain or are bothered by this.
 
Last edited:
I’m pretty surprised you found the AEON more to lay accurate… that said were you using the optional filters with it, e.g. white felt? I can probably help you eq if I know a little more about how you were using the other headphone. NX will clear most ears but yes, there is less clearance.

I am not trying to be flip when I say this but not tapping on the headphone is probable the solution to the band ringing. We have tested this carefully and there is no ringing induced by music. We do have a little clip designed that can solve this if there’s interest. IMHO the biggest application would be for walking about.

If you do prefer the A2 strap we can always provide one and some sliders, it wouldn’t be expensive if you prefer that hack. 90% of feedback is NX is easier and more comfortable to fit but YMMV…

Pardon Dan, but what is the official clearance from Pad to baffle on the NoireX ?
Less than 20mm seems a bit shallow

Thanks
 
Pardon Dan, but what is the official clearance from Pad to baffle on the NoireX ?
Less than 20mm seems a bit shallow

Thanks
I don’t have calipers at home but it’s over 25mm around where the pinna positions. The AMTS is sloped and the front edge has less clearance where it is not required…
 
I don’t have calipers at home but it’s over 25mm around where the pinna positions. The AMTS is sloped and the front edge has less clearance where it is not required…

Seems good for my normal sized ears.
Don’t need to whip out the calipers man. I’m not that crazy. Ha

Much appreciated.
 
Last edited:
That may well be true on a personal basis but is not universally true.
  • Harman target (or any target for that matter) only satisfies the majority of users not all users. There is nothing wrong with preferring or not preferring that target.
  • Seal and constructions that limit seal for some users can alter how someone hears it.
  • positional changes can alter the sound
  • pad-wear can alter the sound
  • L-R matching tolerance/variance can change some perception aspects, not only FR
  • measurements made on a fixture are only accurate to the standard the fixture complies to. There is a lot of variance in pinnae and ear canal geometry and a standard may differ from real life situations.


There are multiple targets and they are all bases on some artificial ear(canal) geometry and a mic with a constant response.
Which target is universally correct for all cases ... and why would that be ?


I bet some people may use it without EQ and love the sound to bits so its a personal thing.


That's the problem with reviews. One can never know the motivations for writing any positive reviews with absolute certainty.
Also if a reviewer has financial gain (gets to keep models or other perks) or wants to keep or increase receiving gear to get more income/viewers chances are even crappy stuff gets positive reviews. The latter one could see as a blatant lie.
Could also be the reviewer simply likes what he hears or listened to it long enough (and not reset the brain to good standards) for the brain to accept the presentation. Could also be that seal happens to be correct for that reviewer.


Yep, exactly my point. Meaning there is no perfect headphone for all. Just that a majority of people may prefer its sound.


Then there is the price, comfort (not to be underestimated), use case dependent stuff like isolation, (cable) microphony, build quality, the 'feeling' one has handling/wearing it, serviceability (padding), longevity.
When the sound is 'perfect' but comfort is crap, the price is absurd, the thing breaks within months of normal usage then what is the 'perfect' sound worth ?

Then we have the can of worms of the huge variability of tonal balance in recordings combined with the preference for a certain genre and/or listening SPL (equal loudness contours).
To tackle this I am a huge proponent of bringing back the usual always quickly accessible Baxandall tone control (bass and treble only).

Add to that headphones having a deviating response for specific purposes that may well work for some purpose (out of the box, without EQ) but are less suited for music enjoyment (without EQ).


in the end....

The 'perfect' headphone does not exist but there are plenty of headphones that sound excellent to an owner (with or without EQ) in nearly all price ranges and use cases.
For that a wide variety of headphones must exist and reviews and measurements can assist narrowing a choice down (if one trusts reviewers or understands all required measurements).

I am sure many of Dan's creations in general (and the Noire X) will do well on the sound quality and comfort front but not everyone, if only for the price.
The limited ear space would be an area that could be improved upon for sure, it would bother me but others have no issues with this. There are plenty of people loving the MDR-7506 with its 14mm thickness and don't complain or are bothered by this.
yeah I agree on most points.

I’m just so tired of the marketing hoopla.
I want headphones to get to a more mature state like speakers and amplifiers.
Where they are better understood and more science.
I’m too old for the marketing.
With speakers it’s so so much easier now. Look at the spinorama data and you get a good sense of what is gonna be good. Or rather what is really wrong.

It was such a relief to get over the whole speaker reviews full of adjectives and poetic writing. I mean nothing wrong with it. But show us some data please as well.
I’m interested in the Noire X cause they follow a good FR and have low distortion. Plus they are quite handsome looking.
In the end maybe I’ll like them or maybe not. But at least they aren’t just marketing and have horrible measurements , and I have to rely on some hifi poet to try and coerce me.

Ok, rant over. Lol
 
I don’t have calipers at home but it’s over 25mm around where the pinna positions. The AMTS is sloped and the front edge has less clearance where it is not required…

Is it about the same dimensions as the Aeon RT? The inside of the pads that is

Thanks again
 
Waiting for stock to show on Thomann.
After owning Stealth and Expanse I hope to have similar experience at a lower price ;)
 
Back
Top Bottom