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DAC with good preamp for Hypex amp.

sobubble

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Hi guys,
As the title suggest i´m looking for a DAC with good preamp that i can hook up to a class D amp. I´m looking at Topping D90 3 and SMSL SU 10. But i can´t really figure out if the preamp is good enough to use as a preamp. I will use a single digital source.
Any tips up to 1000usd?
 
What's a 'good' pre-amp? Any recommended pre amp on this forum will be audibly transparent. Those three above and several dozen more will work sonically.

So it mostly comes down to user function and design. Wiim integrates the streamer which is nice. If I didn't need the streamer I would look at the D70pro because I like the design and function.
 
I will use a single digital source.
In that case you don't need a preamp. You just need a DAC with sufficient output voltage (depending on the sensitivity/gain of the power amp). Most DACs can drive most home power amps. "Professional" power amps with balanced XLR inputs sometimes have less gain so they need higher output from the DAC (or preamp).

You might want a physical volume control knob or remote and you may also want a headphone output which costs the manufacturer very little to add.

Traditionally, a preamp is a "control center" with multiple-selectable inputs, volume control and tone controls and frequently other switches & controls. A preamp has a bit of available gain-amplification but most-often it's attenuating the signal rather than amplifying... in the old days it included a phono preamp which is truly a "preamp" with lots of gain and some modern preamps include a phono input. (A microphone preamp is also a true preamp with lots of gain.)

An integrated amp adds a power amp section.

A receiver adds a tuner, and since stereo receivers and audio video receivers are mass produced and sold into a competitive market they are usually more economical than an integrated amp. An AVR includes a surround decoder and DAC, and multiple power amplifier channels.
 
I´m lucky enough to get a Eversolo T8 for free so that is the only source i will use. I also found the D90 and SU10 used for great prices locally, that is why asked about them. But I realised that i needed som way of controlling volume, and that is why i asked =)
 
What's a 'good' pre-amp? Any recommended pre amp on this forum will be audibly transparent. Those three above and several dozen more will work sonically.

So it mostly comes down to user function and design. Wiim integrates the streamer which is nice. If I didn't need the streamer I would look at the D70pro because I like the design and function.
Found a great price on the D90 on the used market, so I think that it might be a good choice as well SMSL SU 10 for about the same price.
 
I´m lucky enough to get a Eversolo T8 for free so that is the only source i will use. I also found the D90 and SU10 used for great prices locally, that is why asked about them. But I realised that i needed som way of controlling volume, and that is why i asked =)
If you’re getting the T8 for free then stick with this. As above, anything recommended will be sonically transparent says someone with a E70v and an Ultra.
 
Found a great price on the D90 on the used market, so I think that it might be a good choice as well SMSL SU 10 for about the same price.

If the eversolo is your only source you don't need it.
 
The T8, as far as I know, is a transport only. No DAC, so he'll need one.
I would say the Z8, remaining on Eversolo (the Z10 could be the choice, but it is not within the 1000USD, so...)
 
The T8, as far as I know, is a transport only. No DAC, so he'll need one.
I would say the Z8, remaining on Eversolo (the Z10 could be the choice, but it is not within the 1000USD, so...)
Ah thanks.

So yes. Any competent DAC will work. You don't need a 'pre-amp' although it still technically is pre amplifier.
 
In that case you don't need a preamp. You just need a DAC with sufficient output voltage (depending on the sensitivity/gain of the power amp). Most DACs can drive most home power amps. "Professional" power amps with balanced XLR inputs sometimes have less gain so they need higher output from the DAC (or preamp).

You might want a physical volume control knob or remote and you may also want a headphone output which costs the manufacturer very little to add.

Traditionally, a preamp is a "control center" with multiple-selectable inputs, volume control and tone controls and frequently other switches & controls. A preamp has a bit of available gain-amplification but most-often it's attenuating the signal rather than amplifying... in the old days it included a phono preamp which is truly a "preamp" with lots of gain and some modern preamps include a phono input. (A microphone preamp is also a true preamp with lots of gain.)

An integrated amp adds a power amp section.

A receiver adds a tuner, and since stereo receivers and audio video receivers are mass produced and sold into a competitive market they are usually more economical than an integrated amp. An AVR includes a surround decoder and DAC, and multiple power amplifier channels.
when you say "most DACs can drive most home power amps", do you mean in terms of output voltage? how do we check whether the gain needed at the amp level matches what the DAC outputs?
Also, are most DACs with an integrated preamp like the Topping D series sufficient for efficient volume control?
 
As the title suggest i´m looking for a DAC with good preamp that i can hook up to a class D amp. I´m looking at Topping D90 3 and SMSL SU 10. But i can´t really figure out if the preamp is good enough to use as a preamp. I will use a single digital source.
Any tips up to 1000usd?
I use the RME Dac Adi-2 to control my Simaudio Moon 330a poweramp. This is going very well with the RME. The RME can be perfectly adjusted due to its extensive possibilities. Try it and read the review on this site.
 
Topping and SMSL will both be fine
Just pick the one you like
Enjoy...
 
I´m lucky enough to get a Eversolo T8 for free so that is the only source i will use. I also found the D90 and SU10 used for great prices locally, that is why asked about them. But I realised that i needed som way of controlling volume, and that is why i asked =)
Wow, you lucky enough to pick lottery #s?? ;)
 
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