Crown vs iceedge amp

[Ssmokeyy]

Just wondering how a crown xls 2002 vs a iceedge 1200.
Crown states 2100rms at 4 ohm
Speaker power amplifier iceedge module. 1200 rms.at 4ohm. Same price tag here. Does the iceedge amps have more head room vs the crown on dyno shows very little headroom for big dynamic swing. Im not saying the crown is bad just want if ice edge amp are better? Better sound ?

 

[voodooless]

Why do you need headroom if you already have 2100 W at your disposal? What do you need 2100 W for anyway?

 

[Sokel]

Forget about headroom in case of 1200as, that's all you get (with proper cooling) and that's for seconds for one channel driven (no matter if you use the mono or stereo version)
I know, I have 2 of them used as mono.

 

[Ssmokeyy]

The crown xls 2002 runs 2 15 in h stereo integrity sql 2000 rms 4000 max. So I need some headroom. I have a speaker power 1200 iceedge for a single si 15 sql. But I always wonder if there isnt something better out there under a $1000 that might be better.

 

[DVDdoug]

The crown xls 2002 runs 2 15 in h stereo integrity sql 2000 rms 4000 max

Are you really using all of that power? That ought to be enough for a dance or rock band in a school gym...

I can "rattle the walls" and annoy my nearby neighbors with less than 100W into my 15-inch subs.

"Headroom" isn't headroom if you are using it. If you want 4000W on the peaks your best bet is a 4000W amp because there is no way of knowing if you need that peak power for a millisecond, a second, or longer. And there are no standards for "peak power".

On the other hand, the most you can get from a standard 120V x 15 Amp U.S. power socket is 1800W continuously and if you "pull" more than 15A for too long the circuit breaker will blow. Of course that's everything on the breaker. You can't get 15A out of all the sockets simultaneously. And even class D amplifiers aren't 100% efficient so you can't get all of that power to the speakers (continuously).

 

[Ssmokeyy]

I have 6 10 awg romex into the media rack
. With many options to go 240v. For now I run them 6 outlet 20 amp breaker.

 

[voodooless]

I can "rattle the walls" and annoy my nearby neighbors with less than 100W into my 15-inch subs.

These subs are capable of > 110 dB at > 20 Hz. I would not know why you would need that at home?

@Ssmokeyy, did you actually model how much power you really need to reach maximum excursion on these bad boys? I really doubt you’ll need all the power that is speced.

 

[Keith_W]

I don't know the Ice Edge amp you are talking about, but a bit of googling suggests it is an ICE module producing 1200W. I don't know that product very well, having never seen measurements of it. But I can comment on Crown amplifiers.

There are good reasons and bad reasons to consider a Crown. Bad reasons: its noise performance is absolutely dismal. Amir did not review the amplifier you are considering, but he did review another Crown amplifier here. Take note of Amir's comment - use it for subwoofers, don't use it for a full range speaker. The other reason to avoid are the fans. I have seen a Crown amplifier in operation, and yes the fans are audible in a quiet room, from about 2m away. The fans aren't loud enough to be heard over music, but you can definitely hear them with no music playing. If you consider purchasing a Crown, you should Google for a Noctua fan modification. I modified my Yamaha amp (same professional class type amplifier as the Crown) with Noctua fans, and I can tell you it's absolutely inaudible.

Good reasons: the amp has a lot of pro audio features. It has a clipping light to warn you if the amp is approaching its power limits. It has clipping protection - the amp will temporarily mute itself rather than clip and send potential speaker damaging harmonics. The input and output gain can be adjusted - this is a super useful feature if your amp is part of a multi-speaker system because speaker trim is essential. You can route audio from the front panel - maybe you want to mono inputs A and B, maybe you want to split input A into two outputs, or maybe you want to bridge the amplifier. And the best feature of all: it's really inexpensive.

The amp has its place. Yes, it's a bit ugly and a bit noisy. But if you mod it and hide it away and use it only for subs or woofers, you won't get a better amp for the money. After owning my Yamaha amp for a while, it makes me wish that normal hifi amps had its features.

 

[Ssmokeyy]

I own the 2002 crown. I have all ready changed the fan. I feel like the subs can handle more power than this amp is pushing out. I want a bigger amp for them. Thinking I will do speaker power amplifier when I do. I would only use the crown for subs. I have anthem amp and starke sound amp running the mids and highs.

 

[Sokel]

I don't know the Ice Edge amp you are talking about, but a bit of googling suggests it is an ICE module producing 1200W. I don't know that product very well, having never seen measurements of it.

You can see a crippled version here, it has an audiophile (by company's description) buffer in front of it, although modules don't need it:

Peachtree amp500 Amplifier Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Peachtree amp500 stereo amplifier. It is on kind loan from a member and costs US $1,499. The amp500 comes in the same packaging of many previous Peachtree products. I wish company would innovate here as the design looks kind of dated. Then again...

www.audiosciencereview.com

I use two of them for 20Hz-250Hz in mono (modules alone, not the above amp) and I have done all tests imaginable, including swapping them for mid-highs.
Nothing to remark, they just work and have extensive controls and monitoring features, as modules.

They are also pretty much the easiest modules to use, slap them in a box with the bare minimum connections and you're set.