Could you go back .?

[Jaxjax]

For those that measure in room response of your systems, could you toss your mic in the garbage, go back to completely tuning by ear & or just run em as is.? Also with the ability to still enjoy music NOT knowing what the response is at MLP?
I don't think I could willingly do such a thing on a main system these days but if I had to toss the mic, I could still be happy in the end as it's more a want then need for me.
Some are super educated in this realm & really wonder if they could do it not seeing the result on your laptop.

 

[JohnnyNG]

Knowing how good it could be when done properly? Be tough to do voluntarily and go back to the crapshoot.

 

[alankila]

Nah. I have never made it work well by ear, and microphone allows doing the entire tuning in like 5 minutes, rather than spending days and weeks tweaking it without even knowing if it's really better.

 

[Grotti]

Why not? There was a life before DSP.....but I have to admit that it is much more convenient now.

 

[RayDunzl]

Most of the change here is eliminating some bass hump, so I could proably forego the "fine tuning".

Didn't have any tuning at all for a long time, and survived. Sometimes annoyed a bit by the bottom end. Did have a 4dB cut available on the woofers, used sometimes.

Left and Right 1/3 octave, no adjustments:

 

[respice finem]

For those that measure in room response of your systems, could you toss your mic in the garbage, go back to completely tuning by ear & or just run em as is.? Also with the ability to still enjoy music NOT knowing what the response is at MLP?
I don't think I could willingly do such a thing on a main system these days but if I had to toss the mic, I could still be happy in the end as it's more a want then need for me.
Some are super educated in this realm & really wonder if they could do it not seeing the result on your laptop.

I would not want to "ditch" the mic and DSP, why should I? I wouldn't swap my car for a horse either
That said, one of my setups is in an almost untreated living room (because of vintage furniture in it), and the measured performance is as it can be in such a room. It is subjectively OK for TV, movies and casual listening (with PEQ). For "serious" nearfield listening, I have a recently acoustically treated room upstairs. Room treatment of this room has IMHO made a larger difference than PEQ, but both are important, so I wouldn't even try to go "by my ears only".

 

[ppataki]

I would never ever go back, it is a no brainer for me
Especially when it comes to aligning two subs with my mains.....a nightmare without a mic
Not to mention that I have full range drivers, so no DSP is really not an option (I partly switched to full range drivers because of the availability of 'unlimited' DSP on my computer)

 

[waofner]

Most of the change here is eliminating some bass hump, so I could proably forego the "fine tuning".

Didn't have any tuning at all for a long time, and survived. Sometimes annoyed a bit by the bottom end. Did have a 4dB cut available on the woofers, used sometimes.

Left and Right 1/3 octave, no adjustments:

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One of the best day's in my life, when i got rid of these muddy 10 to 12dB's.
A mic+DSP is changing everthing to the better-nowadays at reasonable cost.
also -10dB from 10kHz up- unacceptable now.(harmann-target is not my thing, i am european)

 

[Pareto Pragmatic]

I don't want to go back.

But the truth is we do adapt, and after a while everything would sound fine to me. Just like when I play my vintage speakers, it's a bit jarring at first, but after a bit of time, fine, even with the uncorrectable issues they have.

If we can adapt to glasses that turn our vision upside down, we can certainly adapt to a "warmer tone" or "thumping bass".

So yes, I could ditch it all, just tone control things (or maybe graphic eq) by ear, and be content. I know that. I also know I will not be doing a test to prove it!

 

[xanalog]

...go back to completely tuning by ear & or just run em as is.? Also with the ability to still enjoy music NOT knowing what the response is at MLP?

Back in the analog days, I totally enjoyed the music piped via my Vandersteen2Cs.
In those days, Klippel and room-EQ did not exist and the affirmation-bias was not a thing.

The 'not knowing' was bliss!

 

[Purité Audio]

Removing room gain ( boomy bass) is probably the single largest improvement you can make, so Wakonda forever.
( DSP )
Keith

 

[Sokel]

There's lots of late nights that I ditch everything and just let this +6dB at 30Hz loose, it's almost like a guilty pleasure at low levels.
Or just play DSD.

Audiophile police must be sleeping at this hour

 

[xanalog]

Audiophile police must be sleeping at this hour

imo: Outright blasphemy!