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Corrective EQ for the Edifier MR4 monitors that I can use in a VST EQ ( In REAPER ).

5ynth3t1k

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Hello! My first post here. I'll be brief ! Hi !

I am getting the EDIFIER MR4 and the sub , Uh, I forget what it is called. Never mind.
At the moment I have a MARANTZ amp ( I forge the model, it's a tank .) and WHARFDALE Diamond 6.1 speakers
( they really like Karen Carpenter and Steely Dan, not so great for Joy Rides Hot Drum sub bass... they were super cheap...)
They do actually sing if you give them the right program, quite warm really. Bass drops off. They do pump for a small box.
I run the amp in bypass EQ mode ( yank out the RCA jumpers and direct into the amp, much more clarity...). I love that amp.

oops, over sharing...anyway...

I want an EQ curve that will fill in the xover dip etc.
It has to be for a VST plug that I can use in REAPER ( a Digital Audio Workstation programme...)
I see that people use windows EQ's... not really my bag. So...

What I want to do is put a MASTER EQ on my outs, that go to my DAC. ( Focusrite usb thingy...)

I am shying away from some kind of OS level EQ as I want to be able to control it in REAPER.

Any help would be great !

Thank you for listening and bearing with me !

Yey!

: - )

PS Hello from New Zealand ! it's pouring with rain right now! Winter is more wet than cold!
 
Hi @5ynth3t1k! Welcome to ASR.

A corrective Edifier MR4 EQ you find on the internet will be next to useless.

Room acoustics, the MR4's poor QC, and its undefeatable tone control knobs, means that there's no way any EQ you find online will be applicable to your system playing in your studio.

If you want accurate mixes that translate well, please buy a miniDSP UMIK-1 and actually measure the in-room response of your system.

Lots of great tutorials for this online, it's not nearly as difficult as you might think:
https://youtu.be/Ev1bSSL8tRA
https://youtu.be/6RiuwqzjqlQ
https://www.youtube.com/live/2i5QU8__mq4

There are a bunch of VST plugins you can use to apply the correction, like Mathaudio Headphone EQ (yes, this works fine for speakers), Mathaudio Room EQ, Fabfilter Pro-Q3, or even Dirac if you have more money than time.

Plus like 20 other alternatives, including convolution plugins like NadIR if you want to try FIR filtering.
 
As for the choice of a manual EQ plugin, the integrated EQ plugin in reaper is also probably adequate. Just make sure you set your sampling rate to 88.2kHz or 96kHz (or more) if you plan on doing EQ above 5kHz or so, because it suffers from EQ cramping (like most hardware implementations also do).

You can of course use more fancy plugins like Fabfilter ProQ3, Kirchhoff EQ or Crave EQ2 (that last one is super nice and less expensive than its counterparts) that will solve the cramping issue. Just make sure you always select minimum-phase EQ.
 
wow so speedy. Cool. Thanks!

What do you mean by "undefeatable tone control knobs" ... if I consider this I guess it's a built in EQ that you can't dial out.
Well surely you can work around that by the Program EQ you send it. Right. Just like any program you send it.

I am not worried by the room sound. I am more concerned by the actual sound of the monitors. What happens when the sound
propagates outwards is not a major deal.
( I tend to listen to the sound in different parts of the room, through the wall, outside the house etc so colouration etc is just a fact of life.)

So, as I said it's the basic EQ that will put back the missing part of the sound due to the Xover dip... that I am looking for.
If the speakers are doing their flat response thing that is all I care about at them moment.

I think you get what I mean. I'm trying to get the speaker flat. Literally just the speaker.

oh dear there are more replies piling up! Heck

Thank you!
 
5ynth3t1k said:
What do you mean by "undefeatable tone control knobs"
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These:
MR4-detail-11-update.jpg
 
pos said:
As for the choice of a manual EQ plugin, the integrated EQ plugin in reaper is also probably adequate. Just make sure you set your sampling rate to 88.2kHz or 96kHz (or more) if you plan on doing EQ above 5kHz or so, because it suffers of EQ cramping (like most hardware implementation also do).

You can of course use more fancy plugins like Fabfilter ProQ3, Kirchhoff EQ or Crave EQ2 (that last one is super nice and less expensive than its counterparts) that will solve the cramping issue. Just make sure you always select minimum-phase EQ.
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I am a luddite still stuck down at 48Khz sampling rate, so I am not even sure what EQ cramping is and quite worried about asking... I could upgrade to a better USB box one day.

The basic reaper EQ seems to do well and i tend to shy away from high frequencies so I am not sure that F cramp above 5 K is that much of a worry.

oh no more replies... eek!

Thank you!
 
somebodyelse said:
The only test I've seen showing sample to sample variation of the MR4 was this one, and it didn't seem too bad, so I wouldn't blame the QC:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...its-probably-been-upgraded.42941/post-1520122

The 1st post in that thread suggests Edifier have changed the EQ at least once during the MR4's lifetime without any outward indication. The dip may already have been taken care of.
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Hi there. : -)

You are talking about the EQ in the onboard effects processor, yes?
Which actually is interesting, imagine being able to mod the firmware of the unit...
Will have a look inside the unit when they arrive.

I suppose serial numbers and so on would be a thing. What units shipped with the old EQ setting etc.

This is interesting!

So far I am not seeing much of a solution here, that is totally fine, and will just suck it and see.
If I get really carried away I can do an automated EQ correction for my room etc if I spend the
extra dosh on a decent diagnostic mic. So far I'm not that surgical.
I like room noise, and moving around my room to get a different perspective on the sound.
Even standing in the hall way, the kitchen ( through the wall), can be enlightening.
The many layers of natural filtering can reveal interesting things you might not notice with
full unfiltered program. It's cool.

Thanks for replying!

: - )
 
EQ in onboard DSP, yes. Depending on the design changing it may or not be viable for similar reasons to the Swissonic models. I don't think they've confirmed any changes, let alone the serial numbers , so measurement is probably the only way to tell for now.
 
somebodyelse said:
EQ in onboard DSP, yes. Depending on the design changing it may or not be viable for similar reasons to the Swissonic models. I don't think they've confirmed any changes, let alone the serial numbers , so measurement is probably the only way to tell for now.
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Right oh. Cool. Thank you!

For the money I am not expecting a huge improvement in sound power, but I am holding my breath at to their detail.
( Funny story: I bought some used vintage Yamaha NS-334's only to experience the cones literally falling apart. While they were
running they were really sharp, with almost no bottom end... but now they are dead... eye roll. )

They arrive tomorrow. Cueing up music to listen to!

Do we still blast white/brown/pink noise through new speakers anymore to run them in ??? Or was that a myth from yonks ago?

Have a great day!

: - )
 
somebodyelse said:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/do-audio-speakers-break-in.11898/
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...reak-in-and-environmental-measurements.50662/
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...with-beat-kitchen-and-kali-audio-video.54665/
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Ah ha! Some light reading ! Thank you. : - )

I have discovered the like button. Will be mashing that good and hard.

Have a day! ( currently digging out a tree stump, a very little one, muddy work.)
 
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