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Coronavirus (COVID-19): Global business, economics, and stock markets updates

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RayDunzl

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5:45pm...

Looking at Traffic Maps.

Barely any congested reading anywhere.

Example:

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Versus "typical" day:

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Dallas is usually worse than this. I just realized it's 7:30 there, so that's pretty heavy traffic for that time of day.
 

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Even LA is way below typical congestion, at 5:18 Pacific Time

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Versus "typical" at 5:15

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San Francisco 5:42pm

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Typical

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Some? Good business for some stores and restaurants?
About business for the morgue ...
 

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Don't know why etf's OR futures/Risk instruments of any sort are a great advise they represent (bought with margin or premium money) in most cases like rare comoddities (like gold) not the thrue (multiple Times) physical underlying amount/value. I guess if IT Will sink Inn with people that they are entering (again) a so called New Normal OR better Realistic normal an people goverments compagnies demanding physical delivery the whole ensilada chrashes down. Why did recall most national Banks like Holland Germany etc al their physical gold in recent years An did Rusia, China An others accumulatie their gold reserves in recent years massivly someting tot think about..
 
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The guy wanted to buy mutual funds. ETF's are cheaper. Here's an example: my friend had $100k invested in mutual funds. I found the equivalent ETF's (with exactly the same holdings as his mutual funds). Over 10 years he saved $17000.

I understand times are difficult, and you are probably stressed, but my advice was good to the question at hand.
 

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Because I am telling you there are going to be epic opportunities coming out of this current mess, can't wait!

It’s unfortunate this pandemic arose to be the proximate cause, but a sugar high in the markets followed by a 2008-esque crash is what every thoughtful person had to expect when we elevated someone who (a) was smart enough to get into the casino game but (b) so incompetent as to drive what is basically a license to print money into insolvency. Covefe-45 is the second worst disease afflicting the world right now. There are even worse leaders, but none of them have the reach and power of the globe's de facto Caesar, which every POTUS from FDR on has been.

But to your point, forward-looking fortunate people have systematically been taking money out of the market for a couple years now to build a cash position for deployment when the con man's sugar high wore off.

The guy wanted to buy mutual funds. ETF's are cheaper. Here's an example: my friend had $100k invested in mutual funds. I found the equivalent ETF's (with exactly the same holdings as his mutual funds). Over 10 years he saved $17000.

On paper or actually redeemed?

There's lots of hype around ETFs, but I'm not sure in the realm where funds are useful (i.e. passive index trackers*) that there's a cost advantage either way. Keep in mind that index funds redeem at their actual value, or "NAV" in jargon. ETFs can trade and redeem at some discount (or premium) to NAV.

*I don't understand the lure of actively managed funds, be they mutual funds or ETF. For funds I prefer to go super vanilla: a broad US index fund, a broad developed world ex-US index fund, and a broad emerging markets index fund. That holds for both retirement and investment accounts. I get the allure of stock picking. I dabble in some stock picking because I think I'm smarter than I am and imagine I need some agency in this field. I do not do much stock picking, because any individual stock purchases or sales must be cleared through my firm first (limiting agility) and also ethically I don't want to conflict out of a potential client matter due to personal financial interest. By contrast, active funds offer neither the long-term net returns of passive index funds nor the agency/bragging rights of stock picking, yet include substantial costs. For a really wealthy person a speculative venture capital fund or other managed private equity may make sense, but not for the typical upper middle class family. Index funds have their own structural issues that we will need to address through legislation at some point, such as creating collusion incentives across industries due to substantial common ownership. Regardless, even if steps are taken e.g. to dilute index funds' shareholder voting rights, that won't affect their basic value proposition.
 

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Stock Futures pointing toward a green opening on Friday...

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The guy wanted to buy mutual funds. ETF's are cheaper. Here's an example: my friend had $100k invested in mutual funds. I found the equivalent ETF's (with exactly the same holdings as his mutual funds). Over 10 years he saved $17000.

I understand times are difficult, and you are probably stressed, but my advice was good to the question at hand.
I shifted mostly towards index funds a few years ago. The fees are less of a robbery.
 

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For funds I prefer to go super vanilla: a broad US index fund, a broad developed world ex-US index fund, and a broad emerging markets index fund. That holds for both retirement and investment accounts. I get the allure of stock picking. I dabble in some stock picking because I think I'm smarter than I am and imagine I need some agency in this field.
Same. Occasionally I'll dip into a leveraged fund such as QLD, and with the declines we've seen recently I'd be dipping into it now. But, the economy is grinding to a halt, so I'll avoid for now.
 

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Today's Futures Opening:

Dropped into Limit Down (-5% for the Equity Indexes overnight) after about four minutes, and trading essentially halted. They can trade up, but not further down, until 9:30am tomorrow morning, when the stock exchanges open.

Dow Futures

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Percentages since 4:15pm Friday (Futures settlement time)
Overview:
Top Pink line, Gold Futures
Grouped flat lines - Dow, Nasdaq, S&P, Russell 2000 futures (halted from dropping further)
Dark Blue - Nikkei 225
Dotted Red - Oil

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Close the markets. No one is raising capital through the public markets in this environment.

"Authorities are being pressured to close markets amid coronavirus chaos. Here are the 6 times the New York Stock Exchange has closed for an extended period."

https://markets.businessinsider.com...history-2020-3-1029013176#1-blizzard-of-18881

Blizzard of 1888 - Days closed: March 12-13
The start of World War l - Days closed: July 31 to November 27
New York City blackout 1977 - Days closed: July 14
Hurricane Gloria 1985 - Days closed: September 27
Attack on World Trade Center 2001 - Days closed: September 11-14
Hurricane Sandy 2012 - Days closed: October 29-30

So according to the article, only one closure unrelated to an event that made it difficult/impossible for traders/broker/etc to reach their New York offices.

Now we have electronic trading, so even "can't get to the office" isn't such a hurdle.

Other than WW1, a total of 10 days unscheduled closure.

Looks like WWII didn't merit a closure.

Is this WWIII?
 
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