Competition for Danley’s Hyperion

[Purité Audio]

Just pondering which speakers would be the direct competitor for the new Danleys, thinking in terms of sound quality rather than graphene coating , diamond tweeters etc,
Genrlec 8361 and W371a’s
Kii Three/BXT
JBL M2
Hedd Main Towers
Gen 1036 ( big ones)
What else, Revel Salons
Thanks in advance,
Keith

 

[Axo1989]

Reading the thread topic I was thinking more like "solve this Wordle puzzle to win a pair".

 

[tomtoo]

Just pondering which speakers would be the direct competitor for the new Danleys, thinking in terms of sound quality rather than graphene coating , diamond tweeters etc,
Genrlec 8361 and W371a’s
Kii Three/BXT
JBL M2
Hedd Main Towers
Gen 1036 ( big ones)
What else, Fevel Salons
Thanks in advance,
Keith

You should answer best?!

 

[tomtoo]

Reading the thread topic I was thinking more like "solve this Wordle puzzle to win a pair".

Or make them look that my wife likes them, and you get a pair for free.

 

[Purité Audio]

Reading the thread topic I was thinking more like "solve this Wordle puzzle to win a pair".

Sorry I can probably get you a T-shirt.
Keith

 

[voodooless]

So what would be the criteria to get on this illustrious list?

Anyway, the name Hyperion always reminds me of the book Hyperion by Dan Simmons

 

[Purité Audio]

Really just a ‘what would people pay for these compared to the competition’ question.
Keith

 

[ernestcarl]

Just pondering which speakers would be the direct competitor for the new Danleys, thinking in terms of sound quality rather than graphene coating , diamond tweeters etc,
Genrlec 8361 and W371a’s
Kii Three/BXT
JBL M2
Hedd Main Towers
Gen 1036 ( big ones)
What else, Revel Salons
Thanks in advance,
Keith

No idea about the relative differences in sound quality... however, I'd personally want to acquire the Hyperion the most -- if I actually had another listening room and funds -- over everything else on that list.

 

[Absolute]

We don't know anything about price or performance of these things, so how would we know? In my eyes the competitors will be the high output ones, like the M2 or Genelec 1236A. Both of these have some issues with directivity far off-axis that can certainly be improved upon, so it'll be interesting to see how the Hyperion performs.

I have given up on pre-hyping anything so I will wait to assume too much before I see actual measurements of the speakers.

 

[ernestcarl]

Of course, we should not assume it’s gonna automatically perform be better than any of the others…

But also perhaps it makes more sense to compare or pick something more similar in design to the Hyperion... like another active DSP’d multi-entry horn — they seem like a rare breed. For example, why even bother with a Revel Salon… the concept in that design is completely different.

While we don’t have the spin for the new Danley speaker, yet, the design is sound.

I do care about measurements, but I’m not gonna wait for Amir or Erin to measure something for every single buying or “liking” or preference decision — esp. if I can audition the speakers in-person, and am free to take my own (admittedly, flawed) measurements to boot. A good portion of this hobby for me is about personal taste, objective metrics aside.

 

[Purité Audio]

It would be great to compare 8361/w371 M2s and Danleys I have heard them all but not in the same room at the same time.
Tried to download the RAM Audio software but it looks like Windows only, have to wait until laptop return.
Keith

 

[Duke]

Just pondering which speakers would be the direct competitor for the new Danleys, thinking in terms of sound quality rather than graphene coating , diamond tweeters etc...

Maybe the JBL M2 and PBN M2!5.

 

[ernestcarl]

Maybe the JBL M2 and PBN M2!5.

Appears to be still passive in design and less bass extension, but way, way more aesthetically pleasing M2 look-alike(s). I like it!

 

[MenloBob]

Appears to be still passive in design and less bass extension, but way, way more aesthetically pleasing M2 look-alike(s). I like it!

Those are the real deal M2 horns on the PBN, but he won't disclose where they come from. Read into that what you will.

 

[Duke]

Those are the real deal M2 horns on the PBN, but he won't disclose where they come from. Read into that what you will.

Once upon a time I asked permission from a big company to use one of their proprietary parts in one of my products. Permission denied.

My guess is that Peter has conditional permission, and that he is complying with those conditions. And I would not put him on the spot by asking him directly.

 

[Ilkless]

Reflector Audio

Detailed measurements and spinorama of Reflector Audio Square Two 2-way coaxial horn monitor with 4x 5" woofers

Very interesting concept with very good measurements from an unknown to me before company: Sources of the measurements and photos: https://www.soundandrecording.de/equipment/reflecor-audio-koaxialer-hochleistungs-midfield-monitor-im-test/ https://www.reflectoraudiousa.com/ Would be curious...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Multiple entry horn too but a bit more of a rounded profile that may be favourable for home listening.

 

[voodooless]

Reflector Audio

Detailed measurements and spinorama of Reflector Audio Square Two 2-way coaxial horn monitor with 4x 5" woofers

Very interesting concept with very good measurements from an unknown to me before company: Sources of the measurements and photos: https://www.soundandrecording.de/equipment/reflecor-audio-koaxialer-hochleistungs-midfield-monitor-im-test/ https://www.reflectoraudiousa.com/ Would be curious...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Multiple entry horn too but a bit more of a rounded profile that may be favourable for home listening.

It's not quite the same. The woofers are only added near the mouth of the horn, while Danley has the entry points close to the throat (and in the case of the Hyperion, it's even a coaxial that takes care of this, with 3rd way a bit higher up the horn). That is a profound difference and significantly harder to design and get right.

 

[Ilkless]

It's not quite the same. The woofers are only added near the mouth of the horn, while Danley has the entry points close to the throat (and in the case of the Hyperion, it's even a coaxial that takes care of this, with 3rd way a bit higher up the horn). That is a profound difference and significantly harder to design and get right.

That's a fair point, the focus on keeping CtC very tight and within quarter wavelength defines the Synergy in Hyperion. But their relatively sharp edged profile compared to the roundovers in the Reflector worries me

 

[voodooless]

But their relatively sharp edged profile compared to the roundovers in the Reflector worries me

I think that difference is mainly due to the size contrast. I'd be worried about those large openings in the horn.

 

[ernestcarl]

Reflector Audio

Detailed measurements and spinorama of Reflector Audio Square Two 2-way coaxial horn monitor with 4x 5" woofers

Very interesting concept with very good measurements from an unknown to me before company: Sources of the measurements and photos: https://www.soundandrecording.de/equipment/reflecor-audio-koaxialer-hochleistungs-midfield-monitor-im-test/ https://www.reflectoraudiousa.com/ Would be curious...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Multiple entry horn too but a bit more of a rounded profile that may be favourable for home listening.

Similar, but again, doesn't extend as deep as the Hyperion -- on the other hand, that may actually be not such a bad thing at all as sub placement oftentimes require different position to get better results in many rooms -- if one is prepared to deal with bass-management. It also has the advantage of not looking like a refrigerator appliance. Though there is something a little funny going on with that abrupt change in it's phase response around the crossover -- just a slight imperfection... but probably not anything to worry about.