That SoundWire is a nice find and probably worth price based their website specs:
A real DAC-in-a-Cable.
I wonder if @amirm would be interested in testing and if you are willing to share yours!
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I wonder if @amirm would be interested in testing and if you are willing to share yours!
Sorry, mine is in my Pelican and in useThat SoundWire is a nice find and probably worth price based their website specs:
A real DAC-in-a-Cable.
I wonder if @amirm would be interested in testing and if you are willing to share yours!
5V supply absolutely allows 4V signal. Because it isn't actually 1x4V but 2x2V balanced. Power isn't a concern either, virtually none is transmitted, just a few microwatt.
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Phantom goes to mic inputs, not line.
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I have one of these (slightly different model but same price point) that I keep in my work bag for my live sound use.
It’s an easy and convenient way to do simple test track playback from a cell phone. For live sound, 77SINAD clears any ambient noise floor by orders of magnitude (i.e if show reference volume is 105A/115C, ambient is always far above 28A/38C) and console preamps are clean enough that I can makeup for the 0.75v output level transparently, so the performance is a non-issue.
I have also used it as my emergency announcement (I.e “please evacuate due to adverse weather/fire/etc”) playback source into the console from a laptop, since devices like this are far more dependable than network audio protocols via the laptop Ethernet port (Waves, Dante) to do the same.
And at the pro touring level, console native usb audio interfaces are rare, or require sacrifices in other I/O to install a USB “card”. Modern Digicos are an exception with the UB-Madi option.
I imagine that for short runs, an Apple USB-C to 3.5mm coupled with a 3.5mm to stereo XLR cable would objectively outperform this for a similar cost. Better SINAD, higher output level. But for longer runs, this makes sense if the output is truly a balanced signal.
The “industry standard” product is from Sonnect. (See link)
It is transformer isolated, within the XLR connector shells, which due to the small transformer size, means that it will likely suffer from a distortion/saruration rise at lower frequencies at max output. But would love to see a test on it.
It’s an easy and convenient way to do simple test track playback from a cell phone. For live sound, 77SINAD clears any ambient noise floor by orders of magnitude (i.e if show reference volume is 105A/115C, ambient is always far above 28A/38C) and console preamps are clean enough that I can makeup for the 0.75v output level transparently, so the performance is a non-issue.
I have also used it as my emergency announcement (I.e “please evacuate due to adverse weather/fire/etc”) playback source into the console from a laptop, since devices like this are far more dependable than network audio protocols via the laptop Ethernet port (Waves, Dante) to do the same.
And at the pro touring level, console native usb audio interfaces are rare, or require sacrifices in other I/O to install a USB “card”. Modern Digicos are an exception with the UB-Madi option.
I imagine that for short runs, an Apple USB-C to 3.5mm coupled with a 3.5mm to stereo XLR cable would objectively outperform this for a similar cost. Better SINAD, higher output level. But for longer runs, this makes sense if the output is truly a balanced signal.
The “industry standard” product is from Sonnect. (See link)
It is transformer isolated, within the XLR connector shells, which due to the small transformer size, means that it will likely suffer from a distortion/saruration rise at lower frequencies at max output. But would love to see a test on it.
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This is true, however most mixing consoles either don’t have dedicated line inputs and instead use a single XLR input with a wide gain range, or they have mic inputs on XLR and line inputs on 1/4” TRS jack. In both of these cases this XLR device would potentially have to handle phantom power.
While technically true, it's also a case where a certain level of care and professionalism is rightfully expected. Combo mic/line inputs with optional phantom power just one button away have been standard for decades and never been a widespread problem for the users. You're supposed to know what you're doing.
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They obviously don't, or the SINAD would be -100db or better and this would be a useful product.
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cool garbage trash but it gets the job done
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Like: 'my home-studio in 1994'-grade. I'd include pictures, but that would involve scanning negatives, and findinging them first. Let's say it was rough and keep it at that.
And I wasn't even recording anything. Just saying: this is a sad way of wasting money. i used to say that about pot. But now that this shit is hittin' the streets... It's evil, man. No to Nozama!
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This mentality is what makes young people believe that 'better' is the same just more expensive. I give it one more generation before critical thinking at all levels falls off a cliff for good. And it's not this kind of products and the 'gets the job done' mentality that started it, but it sure does propagate the 'stop thinking, just buy shit' mentality that is good for nothing and nobody.
Pinning shit on people based on their age or generation won’t help anybody either
Would you [us] have known the outcome if it was not for someone to purchase and @amirm to go thru the trouble of a review?
We salute the guinea pigs of ASR!
I was curious about the DAC used on this cable adapter—more to be able to correlate Amir valuable measurements to a particular DAC chip implementation. Since I couldn’t find any information anywhere, I ordered one from Amazon that I received today.
It is WalkPlay-enabled and, per the app, It is built around a TTGKDAT4128BHM-TT [Edit] DAT412BHM-TT module (VID 0x3302 / PID 0x12C3). The DAC SoC is a CB1200AU—also used in numerous USB-C dongles & IEMs from various brands, but not “balanced” (differential) AFAIK…
Being WalkPlay-enabled, it offers the usual 8x default EQ presets, and 8x custom PEQs, each one offering Freq., Q-value, Gain adjustments, and the choice of PK, LS, HP and LP filter types.
There was a FW upgrade available (from v0.1 to v0.3), which I haven’t done.
I understand the perf. are very modest, but the PEQ—particularly the low & high pass filters—may make this cable useful for phone input to a mixing console or PA speaker. With the very low-cost, one could imagine carrying a few of those with different custom filter/EQ presets “just in case…”
It is WalkPlay-enabled and, per the app, It is built around a TTGK
Being WalkPlay-enabled, it offers the usual 8x default EQ presets, and 8x custom PEQs, each one offering Freq., Q-value, Gain adjustments, and the choice of PK, LS, HP and LP filter types.
There was a FW upgrade available (from v0.1 to v0.3), which I haven’t done.
I understand the perf. are very modest, but the PEQ—particularly the low & high pass filters—may make this cable useful for phone input to a mixing console or PA speaker. With the very low-cost, one could imagine carrying a few of those with different custom filter/EQ presets “just in case…”
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... still, the dongle tested doesn't meet chip specs, but explains some of it.
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Thanks for all the help. Could not have typed this without you.
If you mean to imply I am one of these young people you refer to, you're not correct. I am 43, "sir."
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