Doesn't take a genius, does it!Do you think you could tell them apart in a blind test, or were you actually able to tell them apart in a blind test? If so, what was the test setup and what was your confidence score?
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Doesn't take a genius, does it!Do you think you could tell them apart in a blind test, or were you actually able to tell them apart in a blind test? If so, what was the test setup and what was your confidence score?
Either many are imagining it, or we don't know how to measure it.
My experience is that atleast , two DACs both with ruler flat frequency response, can Sound different tonaly!
Take Mojo1 vs Mojo2 - both have ruler flat FR, yet Mojo1 sounds warmer or buller or seem to have less energy in treble region, but seems to have a fuller encompassing bass albeit, less defined.
go figure!
There are no wireless DACs in that photo.And why would anyone strap a wireless DAC to a phone and connect a cable?
Take poly out, if you must use a cable, seperate the two!
who puts a brick in their pocket and boogie?
Yes, I hear you!The first one. There is something like nulling which can be used with music. No magic properties there.
Stereo is just 2 waveforms that can be analyzed and compared.
Mojo+Poly is a wireless DAC.There are no wireless DACs in that photo.
There’s no Poly in that photo.Mojo+Poly is a wireless DAC.
Yes, I realized that after your comment.There’s no Poly in that photo.
Yes, I hear you!
We have reached the pinnacle of knowledge, there is nothing out there we don't know, our techniques are perfect.
All else is fantasy.
The absurdity of that rig was one reason I enjoyed it (I did try Poly later).Yes, I realized that after your comment.
But it is still a brick!
I am curious. On what basis and factors do you determine that the mojo 2 could not get sound quality improvements over the original mojo? Would love to understand your thoughts better.
I might have read one or two discussions/articles(?) on other forums about how and why SINAD does not paint the full picture, what is your opinion about that? I remember it on the headphones show and SBAF. I agree about FR and similar power into predetermined loads though.Both models have flat frequency responses over the audio passband: output equals input. Both produce similar power into 300/32 Ohm loads and have similar THD+N over their operating ranges. They may differ in noise floors, but that is not clear.
IOW: level-matched, no peeking they’re going to produce signals indistinguishable to hoomans.
Ok, then it is even less clear why a potent dongle shouldn´t do the job? My Hidizs S9 Pro weighs maybe 10g, is almost as small as a cigarette (maybe two), has 240mW at 32 Ohm balanced and all sampling frequencies and DSD and whatever. So what is missing?Most people seem to agree that "mobile" with respect to the Mojo 2 means that it's easy to take with you (home, work, hotel, different rooms, etc.), not that it's the best choice to use while riding the bus or walking around.
Internal battery. That, and the increased power are the only upsides to the m2 I can see over said dongle.Ok, then it is even less clear why a potent dongle shouldn´t do the job? My Hidizs S9 Pro weighs maybe 10g, is almost as small as a cigarette (maybe two), has 240mW at 32 Ohm balanced and all sampling frequencies and DSD and whatever. So what is missing?
The thing is, for dacs and amps this is even kind of true. Sure no device is perfect and can still always be improved upon, but SOTA dacs and amps for not much money today deliver 100% transparent (i.e. hifi) sound. What everybody actually should be doing is getting the dacs and amps one likes (design, price, form factors, built quality etc.) and then go on with the really hard and yet unsolved problem of transducers (speakers, headphones) and room effects.Yes, I hear you!
We have reached the pinnacle of knowledge, there is nothing out there we don't know, our techniques are perfect.
All else is fantasy.
Yeah, get a powerbank and place chargers everywhere you usually set your foot (I have about 5 across the house). This saves you still a lot of money from not buying the Mojo 2.Internal battery. That, and the increased power are the only upsides to the m2 I can see over said dongle.
I might have read one or two discussions/articles(?) on other forums about how and why SINAD does not paint the full picture, what is your opinion about that?
No doubt you are aware of the listening tests conducted by Archimago. Even with *very* different DACs, many could not reliably hear any difference <https://archimago.blogspot.com/2019/05/blind-test-results-part-3-do-digital.html>.The first one. There is something like nulling which can be used with music. No magic properties there.
Stereo is just 2 waveforms that can be analyzed and compared.
What would be the reason ?... please don't tell me that it can't be measured.
Needs blind level matched confirmation before such can be stated as a fact and the 'go figure' is used.
Please play back the same song via the 2 different DACs, record with a good sound card at high sample rate and bit depth and null them or ABX and maybe even post them here or make the recordings accessable.
All other findings are NOT hard evidence, just personal observations. There are many people claiming chemtrails exist, and have seen Yetis, aliens, UFOs.
What is lacking is evidence. There are plenty reports and people swearing it is true.
There will always be those who believe in magic. For some reason, this seems much more common in audio than it is in photography or video. Could it be because listening to music is generally a more emotional experience?You can make fun of it. Just record the output of Mojo and Mojo2 with the same song you find revealing and make the files available. THEN we can talk again about differences in the output signal.
Put the files up for ABX and to null them. All else is wishful thinking.
Back in the late 70s, Linn audio proved the reverse was true!The thing is, for dacs and amps this is even kind of true. Sure no device is perfect and can still always be improved upon, but SOTA dacs and amps for not much money today deliver 100% transparent (i.e. hifi) sound. What everybody actually should be doing is getting the dacs and amps one likes (design, price, form factors, built quality etc.) and then go on with the really hard and yet unsolved problem of transducers (speakers, headphones) and room effects.