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Chord Mojo 2 Release

Chord stuff measures pretty well I just don’t know why Watts has to garnish the lilly with his ludicrous pronouncements.
He could just say thiis unit measures well and the aesthetic/ergonomics ( while not to everyone’s taste) set it apart from the pack.
Keith
 
Let's be honest and admit that there will not be. Another overpriced device whose predecessor
That's a boutique DAC that claim to (objectively) perfom stellar. Yes, that is worth discussion and I hope, measurements.
 
Chord stuff measures pretty well I just don’t know why Watts has to garnish the lilly with his ludicrous pronouncements.
He could just say thiis unit measures well and the aesthetic/ergonomics ( while not to everyone’s taste) set it apart from the pack.
Keith
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Its ergonomics set it apart but not in a good way...
 
Can’t believe that people put up with the color coding thing Chord insists on using. From their most affordable to their flagship stuff their industrial design and user-friendliness is just hilariously awful. Wouldn’t for a second consider using anything they make.
 
So it's basically just a variant on the 'loadsataps' idea found in the MScaler. I'm not going to lose any sleep over what my DSP is doing at -301dB ...
Losing more sleep that it's (if I've read correctly) only 4 bands of eq with up to 18 steps. So it's both incredibly accurate but also massively innaccurate. Which is a first.
 
Chord have put themselves in a tricky position with their Poly module I think. It’s taken so long to get it working as expected that if they did away with micro USB ports now, all those Poly owners would be incredibly angry. If it had worked when it first launched, I think people would have been more forgiving of Poly (and micro USB ports) being depreciated.

They are in an out of sync cycle now though, as Poly 2 (if and when) will need micro USB to be backwards compatible with Mojo 2.
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Chord have put themselves in a tricky position with their Poly module I think. It’s taken so long to get it working as expected that if they did away with micro USB ports now, all those Poly owners would be incredibly angry. If it had worked when it first launched, I think people would have been more forgiving of Poly (and micro USB ports) being depreciated.

They are in an out of sync cycle now though, as Poly 2 (if and when) will need micro USB to be backwards compatible with Mojo 2.
Ah, the Poly. For those who don't know, Poly is a WiFi streaming receiver that attaches to the side of the Mojo. It is priced at around $750 (much more than the Mojo itself). The combination adds up to over $1200.
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Poly was such a disaster at launch that I followed the Poly thread on Head-Fi for months. It was like watching a train wreck in progress and I couldn't look away. Here are just a few (of many) entertaining tidbits:
  • A lot of customers had trouble getting the Poly to work, and John Franks (head of Chord at the time) would go on the thread and argue with customers and blame them for having "bad WiFi networks". Franks would keep saying that Chord knows more about networking than anybody else and it can't be Chord's problem. Nevermind that many of the customers were tech savvy and all their other WiFi devices worked fine. One was a network specialist and posted trace logs proving that the Poly kept disconnecting. Eventually Franks stopped posting and a tech liaison stepped in who was much more sympathetic to customer concerns.
  • It was discovered that the Poly could not connect to a WiFi if the SSID had spaces or special characters. Chord's initial response was to tell customers to change their WiFi SSID.
  • The Poly has no power or reset switch. When it froze or hung (not an uncommon occurrence), the only remedy is to let it run out of power (takes about a day) then recharge and restart it. Oh, and customers also had problems getting the Poly to charge up.
When I stopped following the Poly thread after about 6 months, there were still many serious problems. I see that the Poly thread on Head-Fi is now approaching 17,000 posts, almost all of it from users discussing problems. I had been surprised that Chord didn't at least temporarily halt sales until it was in better shape. What kept the product alive was the loyalty of the Chord fanbase ("it's from Chord so it must be good") and their willingness to look past obvious problems. Some customers did give up, and the Poly has hurt Chord's reputation. To Chord's credit they kept working on resolving issues one by one (but the product is deeply flawed and it's a bottomless pit). Most companies would have cut their losses and moved on.
 
Someone please explain to me the "science" here in Rob Watt's assertions. "dielectric absorption aberrations" excuse me Watt the hell

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It's this kind of stuff from Rob, the prices and funky looking design choices that chord uses. That keep me from being a customer.
Their stuff may measure ok, if not good. Still, I have no desire to fall prey to all the ridiculousness that comes from Chord.
 
Ah, the Poly. For those who don't know, Poly is a WiFi streaming receiver that attaches to the side of the Mojo. It is priced at around $750 (much more than the Mojo itself). The combination adds up to over $1200.
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Poly was such a disaster at launch that I followed the Poly thread on Head-Fi for months. It was like watching a train wreck in progress and I couldn't look away. Here are just a few (of many) entertaining tidbits:
  • A lot of customers had trouble getting the Poly to work, and John Franks (head of Chord at the time) would go on the thread and argue with customers and blame them for having "bad WiFi networks". Franks would keep saying that Chord knows more about networking than anybody else and it can't be Chord's problem. Nevermind that many of the customers were tech savvy and all their other WiFi devices worked fine. One was a network specialist and posted trace logs proving that the Poly kept disconnecting. Eventually Franks stopped posting and a tech liaison stepped in who was much more sympathetic to customer concerns.
  • It was discovered that the Poly could not connect to a WiFi if the SSID had spaces or special characters. Chord's initial response was to tell customers to change their WiFi SSID.
  • The Poly has no power or reset switch. When it froze or hung (not an uncommon occurrence), the only remedy is to let it run out of power (takes about a day) then recharge and restart it. Oh, and customers also had problems getting the Poly to charge up.
When I stopped following the Poly thread after about 6 months, there were still many serious problems. I see that the Poly thread on Head-Fi is now approaching 17,000 posts, almost all of it from users discussing problems. I had been surprised that Chord didn't at least temporarily halt sales until it was in better shape. What kept the product alive was the loyalty of the Chord fanbase ("it's from Chord so it must be good") and their willingness to look past obvious problems. Some customers did give up, and the Poly has hurt Chord's reputation. To Chord's credit they kept working on resolving issues one by one (but the product is deeply flawed and it's a bottomless pit). Most companies would have cut their losses and moved on.

Not a Chord fan, that comes through loud and clear. I believe most issues have been resolved by recent firmware updates. Agree it was a terrible entry into the streaming world by Chord but I think you’ve cherry picked your snippets in order to portray an overly negative take on events.
 
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Not a Chord fan, that comes through loud and clear. I believe most issues have been resolved by recent firmware updates. Agree it was a terrible entry into the steaming world by Chord but I think you’ve cherry picked your snippets in order to portray an overly negative take on events.

Thanks for this chordially post. I am intrigued with the product and it would be a nice addition to my mojo due to its chordless connection but the price kept me at bay.:)
 
If you have Roon, Poly and Mojo (while expensive) can offer great flexibility, in my opinion of course.
 
Not a Chord fan, that comes through loud and clear. I believe most issues have been resolved by recent firmware updates. Agree it was a terrible entry into the steaming world by Chord but I think you’ve cherry picked your snippets in order to portray an overly negative take on events.
Back in 2017-2018 when I was following the Head-Fi thread, the situation was truly that bad. As an engineer and product developer I was horrified. I'll grant that I haven't followed developments since then. If Poly can now work reliably as a Roon endpoint, it is a big step forward.
 
I just purchased the Mojo 2 for a good discount. Where I'm from the price is very good. Hope it measures well. Avoiding the Poly like the plague though.
 
what are my other options to a mojo 2?
Depends on which features of the Mojo 2 you consider essential.
E.g. if you need two headphone jacks that run in parallel and a 3.5mm S/PDIF input, then there won't be (m)any other options.
 
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