Katji
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Same person does it every time. It amuses him. In some instances it's almost obvious.
Saying they hear something is one thing.I'm no engineer, but according to the logic I wonder: why shall I spend 800$/€ for a device that doesn't improve the same thing done by a 300$/€ DAC?
Whether you put it before, after, above, below it doesn't provide any measurable improvement to the final output.
If there's no better output that's a well deserved picking panther
If ten people say they hear improvements, opposite to the objective data measuring none, the real scientist will investigate what brings such a flaw to human aural preception, and the process so as ear/brain correct and cheats itself.
You don't really have a clue, do you?I think the designer of this stole the design of this from a Wal-Mart designed boombox circa 2000?
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True, and that's why scientists already asked themselves such questions. They figured out why people hear differences when dealing with audio even when there aren't any and now they know they have to put in strict controls when you ask people to evaluate something.If ten different people say there are, they hear, differences, as a scientist, you'd ask why is that!?!?
Even if one out of hundred says he experienced a difference it shouldn't be neglected. That's what science is all about.
Otherwise we'd still living in caves.
Well this is the thing, they are probably trading off of the goodwill, such as it is, of Chord Electronics. I would have lawyers on them straight away.Definitely never going to name a company anything with the word CHORD in it...
Sighted bias. There is science to show why this happens, because audio memory is poor and sighted bias is high. This is why most people couldn't tell devices apart in any blind A/B situations.... With very few guessing right at any time...I am actually pretty serious about that.
Amir and this site implies a "scientific" approach. It's not. What's being offered are basic measurements.
Empirical evidence gets neglected. As well as e.g. Audio Precision statements about its equipment limitations.
And as mentioned, there are procedural flaws.
Since years Amir generates measurements of audio devices, DACs in particular, showing flaws beyond
audible thresholds. If you'd follow Amirs (and his followers) logic: "all DuTs therefore sound the same",
it would basically imply there'd be no reason for having this forum at all anymore.
Yet. That's simply not the case. The devices do not sound the same. People keep buying new stuff.
All I am saying. You better be careful not to drift into an ideological direction.
If ten different people say there are, they hear, differences, as a scientist, you'd ask why is that!?!?
Even if one out of hundred says he experienced a difference it shouldn't be neglected. That's what science is all about.
Otherwise we'd still living in caves.
And you bet. Amir is well aware of it!
Enjoy.
Probably wouldn't.Would the parts cost even reach $1?
Yea it is hard to even check on "network noise" I mean it is a whole different industry but this product is being sold in the audio industry.Nothing. We know this because we have some understanding about how digital audio /network works.
The DAC was not influenced by the "noise" from the network or there was no "noise" or the test was not Abel to resolve it.
So if the claim is it "filters noise" this was not tested.
But we still know it’s not.
It is because so many peoples problems are all in their head. Many people have high blood pressure from worrying too much, then they find out they have high blood pressure and worry about having high blood pressure. So then they take something and they stop worrying about it because now it is taken care of and as such the problem is indeed taken care of simply because they aren't worrying.
It seems that this Chord was also around for a very long time.Well this is the thing, they are probably trading off of the goodwill, such as it is, of Chord Electronics. I would have lawyers on them straight away.
Maybe we will see a replay of Apple Corps vs Apple Computer.It seems that this Chord was also around for a very long time.
Please enlighten me since your seem to be the MENSA in the room. I have no idea who you are but you seem to know me well as to make such a solid judgement on myself.You don't really have a clue, do you?
They havew been selling a range of cable products for many years. They may even be older than Chord Electronics.It seems that this Chord was also around for a very long time.
Their cables (speaker and interconnect) seem to be carried by many dealers here in the UK.The Chord Company is NOT Chord Electronics in any shape or form. The Chord Company started out making interconnects for Naim amplifiers back in the early 80's which were all DIN socketed. The range expanded into the lower reaches of the foo-end of the market and they've got into these potentially lucrative products too.
They are not though. They are a single wire going into some material. No circuit is completed. This is why they call them "grounding" devices. They only connect to ground even though the connector has both signal connections (for mechanical compatibility).I would think internally these "filters" are crude shunt dissipators, trying to convert RF present on the signal pins (vs ground and/or shell pins) of the specific connector to heat.
Speaker cables came later and I sold plenty of it at the time. A lesson I learned (re-learned) far too late - forget foo materials, silver plating and PTFE insulation (which I gather is needed not for sound quality, but to make the cabe itself?), it's the GAUGE which is most important really - this latter fact was screaming at me when I used the Linn k10 speaker cable (free with the one-box 'Classik' music system) which is basically a generic good quality fig-8 type (2.5mm?) and which 'sounded' great in a more expensive system when I tried it out 'for a giggle.' Sorry, twenty years away from it as a full time job tends to re-focus on what's important apart from making money.....Their cables (speaker and interconnect) seem to be carried by many dealers here in the UK.
There marketing blurb on the Chord Epic speaker cable says they are particularly suitable for floorstanders - enough said I think.
“It’s particularly good at bringing control and definition across the bass frequencies and is the ideal cable solution for floor-standing speakers.”
Huh? What's this about?Maybe I’m just bitter the Kali Audio IN-8 review never got properly fixed.
I’ve been told that’s not the right question to ask an abstract painter.Huh? What's this about?
Did you open one or have other sources that confirm this?They are not though. They are a single wire going into some material. No circuit is completed. This is why they call them "grounding" devices. They only connect to ground even though the connector has both signal connections (for mechanical compatibility).