Thanks for your help. I went through the whole restart, resets, restores sequence, and checked startup sequences, but the problem persisted. I swapped the AVR-3700H back in and it works without issue, so the AVR-X8500HA will be returned. The only audible difference between the two models was after Audyssey. I was able to match the sound of the 8500 on the 3700 by adjusting the speaker distances and levels to match in MultiEQ app. Perhaps the mike placement was different. The tweaks were only by a tenth of a foot but the levels were sometimes 1.0 dB different. I am sure some would advise against doing this, but the tweaks definitely improved the sound, at least in my mind. I have some Hypex Buckeye amps ordered, so it wont lack any power. Of course the 3700 does not have Auro3d, but I don’t have any Auro3d content, and rarely use an upmixer for music.I mean when you turn on your system every day. It’s about how the hdmi handshake works. You don’t have to unplug ROKU or ATV. They should have a sleep mode they automatically set after a predetermined amount of idle time. But it’s important to power up the AVR first, then sources if applicable and finally the TV. If you use a universal remote look for a method of arranging power up order. Power down order does not matter.
Yes, it is. Perhaps I will give that a try, though that definitely would be annoying as that's the point of it to make our lives easier!Is your hdmi cec turned on? I had unusual occurrences when it was turned on. Had to shut it off on AVR and the LG tv.
Ok, this is as far as I have gotten in this thread and this concerns me if I am using external amps on these Denon units in Preamp mode. I do need Zone 2 and is this still the case, 9 months later?You have two issues with this question:
1. Audyssey only supports Zone 1.
2. Zone 2 and 3 only work with internal amps with Denon Amp Assign, NOT with pre-outs. Unfortunately, it's a limitation of the current design. Same with 3700, 4700, 6700 "Preamp" mode in amp assign. It only supports the channels as labeled on the Chassis. It would be nice if Amp Assign supported all modes with pre-outs but currently that is not the case.
Hi all and Bello,I would highly recommend the 6700H over the 4700H. My personal hands-on experience, extensive sound testing, several weeks on both systems side by side . Hands down the 6700H is the better all-around performer. Based on my technical expertise concerning performance, component layout, heat. The 6700H will out last, likely out perform the 4700H in every category, within time. Oh, did I mention HEAT? Even in Pre amp mode. I believe the 6700H is money spent wisely +++ Like a fine bottle of red wine, memorable.
If you can swing the cost don't look back, period. Overall best choice.
Not @Bello ... but if you have no intention of going beyond 11 channels (6700 does 13), stick with the 4700 and if it is warmer than you like get a fan to help with the temp (something from aircom is popular). I find it very hard to believe there would be any audible difference between the two IMO.Hi all and Bello,
First post in this forum and lost of amazing information here. I bought today the 4700H and the 6700H before finding this. I have Martin Logan's Motion 40 (Towers Bi-Amped) and the Motion 30 (Center) paired with my Rotel RMB-1555 Amp and Motion's 4i's for surround. I'm retiring my 4 years old Pioneer Elite LX-801 AV Receiver.
I have about 15 sqft for my spare bedroom just the system. I'm planning to upgrade the ML to the 60XT and Center to the 50XT later down the road.
I'm not planning on atmos at the moment (probably 2 speakers in the ceiling in the future).
Can I get some recommendation for which model to keep? I'm really overwhelmed by the amount of information. I just want to make sure I'm getting the best sound quality for the price point. If there's a reason to spend 1000 dollars more for 6700H that's okay but would the value be there?
Thanks a lot to all.
Not @Bello ... but if you have no intention of going beyond 11 channels (6700 does 13), stick with the 4700 and if it is warmer than you like get a fan to help with the temp (something from aircom is popular). I find it very hard to believe there would be any audible difference between the two IMO.
Sorry that wasn't very clear. A unit that sits on top, is programable to whatever temp you want and it comes on and keeps your receiver cool.Hey Dj7675,
Thanks a lot for letting me know. When you mention the FAN what exactly are we talking about. I know about the amps still been hot even on 100% pre-amp mode. Where and how could I change the fans?
Thanks
Nice that's actually amazing.Sorry that wasn't very clear. A unit that sits on top, is programable to whatever temp you want and it comes on and keeps your receiver cool.
They have various features and also some will have exhaust going forward and some backwards. It just depends on where you put it, what features you want, and which direction you want the air flow.Nice that's actually amazing.
Which would you recommend for the size of the 6700H/4700H?
Thanks
Hi all and Bello,
First post in this forum and lost of amazing information here. I bought today the 4700H and the 6700H before finding this. I have Martin Logan's Motion 40 (Towers Bi-Amped) and the Motion 30 (Center) paired with my Rotel RMB-1555 Amp and Motion's 4i's for surround. I'm retiring my 4 years old Pioneer Elite LX-801 AV Receiver.
I have about 15 sqft for my spare bedroom just the system. I'm planning to upgrade the ML to the 60XT and Center to the 50XT later down the road.
I'm not planning on atmos at the moment (probably 2 speakers in the ceiling in the future).
Can I get some recommendation for which model to keep? I'm really overwhelmed by the amount of information. I just want to make sure I'm getting the best sound quality for the price point. If there's a reason to spend 1000 dollars more for 6700H that's okay but would the value be there?
Thanks a lot to all.
Hi John,Hi all and Bello,
First post in this forum and lost of amazing information here. I bought today the 4700H and the 6700H before finding this. I have Martin Logan's Motion 40 (Towers Bi-Amped) and the Motion 30 (Center) paired with my Rotel RMB-1555 Amp and Motion's 4i's for surround. I'm retiring my 4 years old Pioneer Elite LX-801 AV Receiver.
I have about 15 sqft for my spare bedroom just the system. I'm planning to upgrade the ML to the 60XT and Center to the 50XT later down the road.
I'm not planning on atmos at the moment (probably 2 speakers in the ceiling in the future).
Can I get some recommendation for which model to keep? I'm really overwhelmed by the amount of information. I just want to make sure I'm getting the best sound quality for the price point. If there's a reason to spend 1000 dollars more for 6700H that's okay but would the value be there?
Thanks a lot to all.
Hey guys @Bello @amper42 @Dj7675
Thanks for everything so far.
Yesterday I picked up a 3700H just for testing and one thing that I notice is that in pre amp mode there's no way to bi amp the fronts. I use 2 pairs for each tower but different than the pioneer the system does not allow me to assign the RCA PRE OUT for Height 1 to be my second front input so I can Bi-Amp. Is there anyway to change that since I'm not using the amplifiers in the receiver.
I should be receiving my 6700h tomorrow.
Thanks
John,
The Denon 3700/4700/6700 receivers only support a Bi-amp configuration when "Denon amp assign" is used with the Bi-amp option selected. Of course, this requires using the internal Denon amps. As soon as you select Pre-out mode in "Amp Assign" only the functions printed on each pre-out port are supported. The same applies to A-B Fronts and Zones - they are not supported in Pre-out mode. Denon support has emailed me this is by design and is not expected to change.
For my use, I decided the higher performance of using quality external amps with pre-out mode was more important than a bi-amp configuration. This is probably a decision you will need to consider as well.
Well. they replaced my 6700 back in december due to the video switching issues.. which remained with the new unit, leading me to believe it's simply doesn't work well switching modes on the video side specifically in games that alternate from 120-60hz. So I had to just connect directly to my tv from PS5 which completely defeats the purpose now using earc return.
AND NOW the right channel of the amp seems dead. I can't win with this 6700. What on earth is going on with this product. I even have a cooling fan on it and never run it loud. It's just my luck apparently...