craftsmansky
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anyone have any experience with chinese tube amps? wish i hadnt gotten rid of my pas 3/st 70 all those years ago, but probably will never be able to get back in the tube game.
I had dyna kit Mk IIIs that I should have kept too. I bought a Cayin MA-80 integrated amplifier 4 years ago and its well built sounds good although I don't have any other tube amps here to compare it to. I think it cost about $1000 at the time. Stereophile reviewed and measured a similar Cayin amp a while back.anyone have any experience with chinese tube amps? wish i hadnt gotten rid of my pas 3/st 70 all those years ago, but probably will never be able to get back in the tube game.
Not 100% sure on what your trying to figure out, your question is very generalized?anyone have any experience with Chinese tube amps? wish I hadn't gotten rid of my pas 3/st 70 all those years ago, but probably will never be able to get back in the tube game.
anyone have any experience with chinese tube amps? wish i hadnt gotten rid of my pas 3/st 70 all those years ago, but probably will never be able to get back in the tube game.
anyone have any experience with chinese tube amps? wish i hadnt gotten rid of my pas 3/st 70 all those years ago, but probably will never be able to get back in the tube game.
anyone have any experience with chinese tube amps? wish i hadnt gotten rid of my pas 3/st 70 all those years ago, but probably will never be able to get back in the tube game.
I'm looking at this from a Recording Engineer/Mixer/Producers point of view. For the past 4 decades all of the recording consoles, digital/analog recorders, and processors I have used, many of these consoles with price tags well over one million US, the one thing they all have in common is... NONE of them have any freaking tubes. Every one of these consoles/recorders have literally thousands of IC's and transistors. Some of the gear analog and much digital. If you think that a single tube or multiple tubes, is a good thing that will improve the sound of audio that has already been processed by millions of transistors, I whole heartedly disagree. A tube circuit may color the audio, and you may like that coloration, but it sure as hell won't undo or improve upon what has already been done in the studio.
I agree. Beauty is in the "ear" of the beholder.Well, I am not an "audiophile" However I prefer "pleasant" over harsh , cold and unmelodic,
Having been a musician all my life, I think I have some experience with sound of instruments.
Recording Engineers/Mixer/Producers, process music to their taste, some of them are really
good, some are not.
Well, I am not an "audiophile" However I prefer "pleasant" over harsh , cold and unmelodic,
Having been a musician all my life, I think I have some experience with sound of instruments.
Recording Engineers/Mixer/Producers, process music to their taste, some of them are really
good, some are not.
(source: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...-wa7-wa7tp-dac-and-headphone-amp-review.7028/ )As I have experienced time and time again in controlled testing, there is nothing euphonic or positive with such tube amplifiers. No soundstage is changed. No instrument is isolated more (it is actually worse with WA7). Detail is actually lost. The sound definitely is not warmer either. People read these attributes into such devices because they think they are there.
I'm looking at this from a Recording Engineer/Mixer/Producers point of view. For the past 4 decades all of the recording consoles, digital/analog recorders, and processors I have used, many of these consoles with price tags well over one million US, the one thing they all have in common is... NONE of them have any freaking tubes. Every one of these consoles/recorders have literally thousands of IC's and transistors. Some of the gear analog and much digital. If you think that a single tube or multiple tubes, is a good thing that will improve the sound of audio that has already been processed by millions of transistors, I whole heartedly disagree. A tube circuit may color the audio, and you may like that coloration, but it sure as hell won't undo or improve upon what has already been done in the studio.
None of us listen to, or own class B amplifiers. As such, that research which I have also read, is of no value to us.Bell Labs did research in the 1960's when they went to put transistors into their phone equipment, the research showed that the ear had an easy tome 'ignoring' 2nd and third harmonic distortion, the ear/brain was far more sensitive to high order odd harmonics and to crossover distortion in class B amps.
Are you asking about tube headphone amplifiers or power amplifiers?anyone have any experience with chinese tube amps? wish i hadnt gotten rid of my pas 3/st 70 all those years ago, but probably will never be able to get back in the tube game.
However as you point a LOT of music was processed through horrendous mixing boards, many of which used the hideous 741 Op Amp whick had tons of higher order odd harmonic distortion. Enter certain Tube designs especially Single ended DHT amps which produced a lot of distortion by mordern standards, BUT the distortion was almost exclusively 2nd harmonic distortion. I would suggest that the distortion of the amps 'masked' the nasty sounds of recordings p[roduced by the pro equipment.