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Chinese Car A/V systems

Lotus electric vehicles are fully designed and manufactured in China and sold worldwide. The KEF audio system I feel is okay. The coaxial speakers are actually very suitable for the small speaker space in cars and sound quite good.

As for MG, well, it's a brand that doesn't quite make waves in China. You hardly ever see cars of this brand on the road, so they sell MG to Europe.

Regarding the audio system of electric vehicles, many of them now have dozens of speakers, along with a TV. Yes, it's really a TV. There's a foldable TV in the back row. You can sit in the back row to watch movies or play video games.
Sadly, KEF does not sell car speakers to adapt to other models and manufacturers.

I assume that no matter how expensive the Lotus (or any other car) is, it will still benefit from a technician with a DSP and some measurements to adjust the sound.
 
Sadly, KEF does not sell car speakers to adapt to other models and manufacturers.

I assume that no matter how expensive the Lotus (or any other car) is, it will still benefit from a technician with a DSP and some measurements to adjust the sound.
Yeah. KEF has only partnered with Lotus in the automotive field as far as I know. The KEF signature coaxial speaker flower can be clearly seen inside the car. There are like a dozen speakers.
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The peak power is around a kilowatt, similar to the mid-grade Meridian audio in Land Rover.

I also stopped by the showroom. You know, when Lotus first came to the Chinese market, the starting price was about 80,000 bucks. Even with this year's price cut, it still starts at 70,000 bucks. It's really kind of pricey.
 
For car audio maniacs, I´m sure it´s possible to acquire a set of those speakers and work from there. In the past, KEF made car speakers, so one can only hope they will, at some point, allow customers to buy the speaker and add it to your particular vehicle.
 
The stock sound system in my BYD electric van is surprisingly good once I experimented enough with the built-in EQ tools to do away with the atrocious out-of-factory voicing. Anyone over at BYD who did that insane ear-bleeding treble is either deaf or needs to get fired.

Also the FM radio reception also sucks versus my last 2 decade old Pioneer head unit. The built-in Bluetooth SBC functionality on the other hand is awesome both on a usability and SQ standpoint. I can't tell a SQ difference between that SBC versus my previous Tunai FIrefly external LDAC car receiver.
 
Deadlines have been the same since the beginning.
Still of topic for this thread but It looks like EU will relax their ICE ban, albeit only dropping to a 90% reduction to help divert the European manufacturers from their current path to oblivion.

 
Double glazed windows with active noise cancelling in allready "quiet" EVs, plus more premium speakers and DSP. Yeah, Chinese EVs in Aus are killing it soundwise (and in many other areas).

Basic sound principle - it starts with a silent background
 
Deadlines have been the same since the beginning. All EU manufacturers have heavily invested in EVs, but they also have heavily increased their prices after COVID. Now they face 2 issues:
- less and less people can afford a new car
I'd like to add that the price increases are largely due to the increased demands regarding driver assistance systems, safety, and emissions control (the latter, of course, only for combustion engine vehicles). Five years ago, you could still buy a new small car for around €10,000. Today, this market segment has practically disappeared.

- people do not want EVs, which is an issue when your only investments were EVs
I wouldn't say that people fundamentally reject EVs. My driving experiences with such vehicles so far have actually been positive: very quiet, very comfortable, very smooth acceleration and stopping, and direct response from the drive system. I also have the option of installing a charging station, so I wouldn't be dependent on the sometimes absurd prices at public charging stations. But even with my own charging station, it will be difficult to save money on running fuel/electricity costs compared to a fuel-efficient combustion engine vehicle.

And while the technological development of combustion engine vehicles has been rather slow and linear, electric cars are advancing by leaps and bounds. The resulting technological obsolescence leads to very high depreciation. At the same time, repairs and insurance for these cars are very expensive.

This year I bought another combustion engine vehicle. Mainly because of the price (just under €26,000 and very cheap insurance, "full coverage" for about 300 Euro per year); a comparable electric vehicle would certainly have been at least 25% more expensive. But ultimately, nobody knows how all this will develop. Last but not least, the constant government intervention through tariffs and subsidies creates uncertainty that harms all market players. Those who could barely afford individual mobility until now will only be deprived of it again, while people with better financial means switch to ever larger automotive "tanks".

Still of topic for this thread but It looks like EU will relax their ICE ban, albeit only dropping to a 90% reduction to help divert the European manufacturers from their current path to oblivion.
It's obvious that this measure won't have any significant (positive) effect. They are just creating a smokescreen to temporarily calm the situation ... Reducing emissions by 90% is very challenging and practically only achievable with a hybrid drive (and a test cycle that delivers the desired result...). Perhaps they want to keep some options open for luxury cars and sports cars with "traditional" engines, but this doesn't benefit the average car buyer. If only a small percentage of the vehicles produced are allowed to emit direct emissions, most manufacturers will certainly have to ask themselves whether anything other than EVs even offers a reasonable return on investment.

Regarding car audio: I think it's good that at least some manufacturers are addressing the issue. My Skoda (VW group) is definitely rather underwhelming. After tweaking the (3-band) equalizer a bit, I'd describe the sound of the standard 8 speaker soundsystem as tolerable, nothing more. Considering that so much could be achieved here with DSP for relatively little cost, it's disappointing but not surprising. VW lags far behind the competition when it comes to automotive software. At least wireless Android Auto works 99.9% of the time in my car, which is an improvement over its predecessor.
 
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