devinplombier
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Title says it all. Both DACs cost $129 right now.
Even cheaper: Schiit Modi 3E ($99) or JDS Labs Atom DAC+ ($109)?
Even cheaper: Schiit Modi 3E ($99) or JDS Labs Atom DAC+ ($109)?
I'd go for the JDS too just for looks. Never cared for Schiit's bent metal style. I also detest the name. Worthy of a 10 year old's idea of cool.
Not that I'm aware of, other than maybe some eye-rolling among ASR folks for them cashing in on the R2R silliness. Its performance hasn't measured by any 3rd party, to my knowledge, but FiiO's stuff is usually pretty solid.Do I sense controversy around the FIIO K11? Sorry if I'm not familiar, I just looked it up and it seems to check the boxes? It even looks pretty good![]()
What do you expect to be different about R2R and why do you think that?I'm also thinking about a small DAC for my second system. I'm not interested in balanced because the preamp is only RCA. I would be undecided between SMSL PS200 or, listen up, FIIO K11 R2R, yes I know what you think, but I like to play. I have the opportunity to try an R2R without investing large sums, required up to now for such devices. It is then the curiosity to make some AB, or with rare enthusiast friends maybe ABX.... Can I run the risk of making this investment for my personal science.... or something else could be Schiit. I don't have a precise idea, I would just like something silent, clean, basic, without frills!!
The choices were JDS vs Schitt. If you're going out of the box, look hard at the Topping D10sDo I sense controversy around the FIIO K11? Sorry if I'm not familiar, I just looked it up and it seems to check the boxes? It even looks pretty good![]()
I will tell you that I do not know what to expect: the R2R have always been accompanied by the fame of the most 3D sound and naturalness.What do you expect to be different about R2R and why do you think that?
That is okay, but that is how such designs stay in the marketplace when they really offer nothing.I will tell you that I do not know what to expect: the R2R have always been accompanied by the fame of the most 3D sound and naturalness.
This is how the subjective world has always represented it. I have never had the opportunity to make good, somewhat serious comparisons.
If this project is well executed I expect a Dac that could be exactly transparent and clear as other Dacs that I have. And this would already be a good result.
The thing that could make differences is the possibility of choosing, if I read correctly, between Nos and Os.
But I have no idea what this could entail in terms of listening.
However I admit that I am curious, I repeat, it is for a question of personal science .....
Many early CD players (domestically DACs didn't appear for a while) were R2R. I worked on them and listened to them. Done well, they are fine. R2R is generally trickier to get good results from, but there are quite a few R2R devices on ASR which have measured well.I will tell you that I do not know what to expect: the R2R have always been accompanied by the fame of the most 3D sound and naturalness.
This is how the subjective world has always represented it. I have never had the opportunity to make good, somewhat serious comparisons.
If this project is well executed I expect a Dac that could be exactly transparent and clear as other Dacs that I have. And this would already be a good result.
The thing that could make differences is the possibility of choosing, if I read correctly, between Nos and Os.
But I have no idea what this could entail in terms of listening.
However I admit that I am curious, I repeat, it is for a question of personal science .....
absolutely: I saw them and I saw the tests. In fact, I am curious to try a discrete R2R for 170 euros! In truth, I have tried some R2R over time but the craftsmanship of the creations left me perplexed... if I could, I would give a little thought to a Holo: however, I prefer to invest that amount of money in a pair of speakers or something else... however, maybe a used one...Many early CD players (domestically DACs didn't appear for a while) were R2R. I worked on them and listened to them. Done well, they are fine. R2R is generally trickier to get good results from, but there are quite a few R2R devices on ASR which have measured well.
If it's well implemented (including a properly implemented brick-wall reconstruction filter), you won't hear any difference between R2R and non-R2R. If it's well implemented and you do hear a difference, it will be because levels are not matched perfectly to within 0.1V.In fact, I am curious to try a discrete R2R for 170 euros
Well folks I bought an open-box SMSL DO100 PRO on amazon for $131.40 + free shipping. Dual ESS chips and balanced XLR outputs are nice, and I'm sure LDAC bluetooth and HDMI inputs will come in handy.
Lots of features for the $ actually. I'm pretty pleased![]()