Please don’t assume. It’s easy to look up these products online. The MiniDSP SHD Studio does not have a DAC built in.
Why do we need to continue to pile on? What has @waynel done to deserve your ire?
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Chasing SINAD
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Why do we need to continue to pile on? What has @waynel done to deserve your ire?
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The Yamaha streamer has no bass management ,crossover, or room correction . I only use it because I don’t like the functionality of Volumio . The SHD studio has no DAC (except for the headphone jack).
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
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thanks for the info on the SHD Studio.
Perhaps I’m talking about this bit:
“There is a disconnect between patting ourselves on the back for being objectivists, and then adding superflous components to a system in order to gain a miniscule increase in SINAD with no audible benefit.”
This sort of comment is rude in the best of circumstances. Especially so with no data to back it up, nor any alternative suggestions.
I actually think that quote of his quite nailed it. I don't think it's rude. You could argue about choice of components that would fulfil that statement, but the statement is a good one, and is what I was getting at in one of my earlier posts.
By the way, I agree with your earlier post that it's nice to post pics of your system that you're proud of.
I think everyone should strive for a system they can be proud of and this is an awesome example of that. Whether the electronics are "overkill" or not is IMO beside the point.
The only nitpicking I would do is on the non-symmetrical placement of the setup. The left speaker is very close to the side wall compared to the right. The in-room measurements show that the L/R responses are quite different. But this is clearly a system with a lot of thought behind it and I'm sure @waynel has weighted the pros & cons of different placements. Again, nitpicking here and since my own system is very much a budget one, feel free to ignore all of it
Thank you for sharing, the living room setup was really cool as well!
The only nitpicking I would do is on the non-symmetrical placement of the setup. The left speaker is very close to the side wall compared to the right. The in-room measurements show that the L/R responses are quite different. But this is clearly a system with a lot of thought behind it and I'm sure @waynel has weighted the pros & cons of different placements. Again, nitpicking here and since my own system is very much a budget one, feel free to ignore all of it
Thank you for sharing, the living room setup was really cool as well!- Thread Starter
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I think everyone should strive for a system they can be proud of and this is an awesome example of that. Whether the electronics are "overkill" or not is IMO beside the point.
The only nitpicking I would do is on the non-symmetrical placement of the setup. The left speaker is very close to the side wall compared to the right. The in-room measurements show that the L/R responses are quite different. But this is clearly a system with a lot of thought behind it and I'm sure @waynel has weighted the pros & cons of different placements. Again, nitpicking here and since my own system is very much a budget one, feel free to ignore all of it
The in-room response that I showed is just the Salon 2's without the subs. Most of the difference between L and R speakers is below 80Hz
1) I cross over to the subs at 80Hz and run them gain matched in mono so the left and right response below 80Hz is now identical
2) I use Dirac (in the past Anthem ARC Genesis) to correct for the room below 500Hz
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Did you choose 500Hz as the cut-off for the transition region? Curious about the reasoning.
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Most of the differences between the left and right channels were below 500Hz as well as most of the deviation from flat. please take a look at the curve that I quoted in my prior post. I don't think that I would lose much if I pushed the correction down to 200Hz and I think anywhere from 200Hz- 500Hz makes sense but I don't want to correct above these frequencies because the on-axis sound for these speakers is already pretty flat and the dispersion even.
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@waynel Would you be opposed a "Chasing SINAD on the Cheap" thread? (Could also be called "Aspiring to be waynel")
Edit: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...chasing-sinad-on-the-cheap.17492/#post-566772
Edit: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...chasing-sinad-on-the-cheap.17492/#post-566772
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Go for it! here is my contribution https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...trusive-living-room-streaming-solution.17130/@waynel Would you be opposed a "Chasing SINAD on the Cheap" thread? (Could also be called "Aspiring to be waynel")
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I recommend an irregularly shaped room , a large sofa, and the largest Dobsonian that you can carry or wheel through your door.
In my smaller studio I have 22 GIK panels that I found very effective. In my living room and den I have found no need for extra acoustic treatment .
I always try to arrange gear in an aesthetically pleasing way such as OP but usually find a cable or two that aren't long enough and it can be tricky finding a replacement.
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Fill in the room modes without taxing the speakers, also I allow some room gain with a rise to 15Hz.
Sorry, I just read your post #69 as well.
Anyhow you felt that additional investment of 2 subs worthy (or did you buy both the speakers and subs at the same time ?).
Note that there is a recent thread about sub distortion vs Revel's 328be here:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...revel-328be-and-a-sub-distortion.17459/unread