prof__weismann
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Hi everyone, I am considering upgrade my genelec, but feeling difficult to decided between kh150 and 310s, hoping anyone here could give me some help.
For now I am using two genelec 8030s with RME ADI-2 DAC and a dynaudio 9s subwoofer. I use this set up for both listening and creation. I work on basically every step in a music production workflow, while emphasizing on sound design and mixing. Here's some images of my room:
and a cad drawing with room size (in millimeters)
I know that the acoustic env is terrible but I'm not able to change the room for now :-(
I manually did a room calibration using a minidsp mesurement mic with the 5-band parametric eq came from the rme dac. The calibration curve is like this
and the calibrated room response looks like this
I added some more bass on purpose cause this make me feel better when enjoying music from others, while when mixing and mastering for my own i decay bass of 2db on rme dac, then the bass side of the curve does not tilt up. The response curve seems okay but I am not sure how to evaluate the phase curve, i would appreciate if anyone could help to comment on.
I just considered upgrade my speakers to neumann kh 150, the dsp calibration is charming, which is believed to be much much better than my manual work. However I then found the 8-inch kh310s are also not unreachable, which seems to much more powerful than 150s. In my country a pair of kh310s are listed at 3840 usd, while two 150s + ma-1 kit are 3520 usd, tax & ship incl. These are regular prices, not some time limited offer. This is weird cause it seems the price difference is larger in websites selling them in u.s. or europe. This makes kh310s more tempting. However, in the kh150 discussion thread I found someone claiming they can not hear difference between 310s and 150s. Is this common for most people?
So here comes the actual question: does neumann dsp calibration really improves a lot for my setup, compared to the manual para eq? Or does the power of 310 just overwhelm the 150s even only with the manual eq?
Another issue is that I want to continue using the dynaudio subwoofer with the neumann speakers. I have an antelope zen go with dsp inside and it outputs both analog and digital audio, with which I can output digital siginal for kh150s, do its own calibration, and output analog signal to the lfe input of the sub, with a low-pass eq that only leave the low-end that 150s lacks. does this solution make any sense ?
Thank a lot for your reply !
For now I am using two genelec 8030s with RME ADI-2 DAC and a dynaudio 9s subwoofer. I use this set up for both listening and creation. I work on basically every step in a music production workflow, while emphasizing on sound design and mixing. Here's some images of my room:
and a cad drawing with room size (in millimeters)
I know that the acoustic env is terrible but I'm not able to change the room for now :-(
I manually did a room calibration using a minidsp mesurement mic with the 5-band parametric eq came from the rme dac. The calibration curve is like this
and the calibrated room response looks like this
I added some more bass on purpose cause this make me feel better when enjoying music from others, while when mixing and mastering for my own i decay bass of 2db on rme dac, then the bass side of the curve does not tilt up. The response curve seems okay but I am not sure how to evaluate the phase curve, i would appreciate if anyone could help to comment on.
I just considered upgrade my speakers to neumann kh 150, the dsp calibration is charming, which is believed to be much much better than my manual work. However I then found the 8-inch kh310s are also not unreachable, which seems to much more powerful than 150s. In my country a pair of kh310s are listed at 3840 usd, while two 150s + ma-1 kit are 3520 usd, tax & ship incl. These are regular prices, not some time limited offer. This is weird cause it seems the price difference is larger in websites selling them in u.s. or europe. This makes kh310s more tempting. However, in the kh150 discussion thread I found someone claiming they can not hear difference between 310s and 150s. Is this common for most people?
So here comes the actual question: does neumann dsp calibration really improves a lot for my setup, compared to the manual para eq? Or does the power of 310 just overwhelm the 150s even only with the manual eq?
Another issue is that I want to continue using the dynaudio subwoofer with the neumann speakers. I have an antelope zen go with dsp inside and it outputs both analog and digital audio, with which I can output digital siginal for kh150s, do its own calibration, and output analog signal to the lfe input of the sub, with a low-pass eq that only leave the low-end that 150s lacks. does this solution make any sense ?
Thank a lot for your reply !