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Cannot live without digital room correction now

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I do not know how I was able to tolerate the lack of DRC before, but after REW/Roon DSP and now RoomPerfect I cannot imagine not having it.

DRC should be a standard feature in all DACs or integrated amplifiers. It is just software with zero marginal cost (only R&D). If enough people pay for it, the cost can come down dramatically.

Frankly, I did not love doing room correction with REW. It was just too tedious. The current premium of having a built-in DRC is around $1000-1500 at the entry-level. I think it is worthwhile. Any system that costs $3000 and up should have it. Hopefully, the cost can come down so more people can enjoy this wonder.
 

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Few rooms are so acoustically perfect that the bass is flawless. Even with considerable amounts of room treatment, I still EQ a couple low frequency modes. Helps immensely. Like you say, I couldn't live without it.
 

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I do not know how I was able to tolerate the lack of DRC before, but after REW/Roon DSP and now RoomPerfect I cannot imagine not having it.

DRC should be a standard feature in all DACs or integrated amplifiers. It is just software with zero marginal cost (only R&D). If enough people pay for it, the cost can come down dramatically.

Frankly, I did not love doing room correction with REW. It was just too tedious. The current premium of having a built-in DRC is around $1000-1500 at the entry-level. I think it is worthwhile. Any system that costs $3000 and up should have it. Hopefully, the cost can come down so more people can enjoy this wonder.
Mostly agreed.
But really good DRC takes a lot of R&D time. Specially one that contains enough automation that it doesn't send the average guy running-screaming from the set-up instructions. (thinking current TOTL levels of Audyssey & Dirac) All that is expensive to produce.
The times they are a-changin. ;)
 

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Good automated DRC (especially multi-sub capable) is very expensive in terms of R&D.
One need very big market to keep price sane.
 

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I put in Dirac for the two tower speakers either side of my lounge TV. Wasn't sure if I liked it so took it out. Then realised how much worse it was without! Especially for dialogue. So put it back. :D

Still usually prefer my REW 'Auto EQ' settings for music though. :)
 
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Good automated DRC (especially multi-sub capable) is very expensive in terms of R&D.
One need very big market to keep price sane.
Lyngdorf is able to put that in a $2500 product. They will even include a very nice calibrated microphone and a tripod in the package!

After running RP, which booster bass a bit, I was surprised how much bass I needed to cut for regular dialog-heavy TV shows in the EQ.
 

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Lyngdorf is able to put that in a $2500 product. They will even include a very nice calibrated microphone and a tripod in the package!
I think they're supporting that with their $10k and $15k multich processors. ;)
 

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There are support groups, some even covered by health care plans, just contact the number below
1-800-AreYouFuckingKidding?
 

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I think they're supporting that with their $10k and $15k multich processors. ;)
Well I helped out to amortize costs earlier on as I still have their DPA-1 digital preamp with room perfect. Just retired in favour of MiniDSP Flex with DIRAC.
 

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Well I helped out to amortize costs earlier on as I still have their DPA-1 digital preamp with room perfect. Just retired in favour of MiniDSP Flex with DIRAC.
Any impressions on Dirac vs RP?
 

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Any impressions on Dirac vs RP?
For me Dirac sounds better. More focused images. Whether that is due to the phase correction, who knows. Impulse responses are definitely improved. I ran both in digital domain only with same DAC.
 

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If a subjectivist tried using DSP, he might be a little disappointed, because it makes it possible to make two rather different speakers sound very similar. Takes all the fun out of fretting over differences.
 

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If a subjectivist tried using DSP, he might be a little disappointed, because it makes it possible to make two rather different speakers sound very similar. Takes all the fun out of fretting over differences.
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It would be nice to be able to listen to a double blind test matching with DSP the same frequency response between a Mackie MR824 type monitor vs monitors 10 times or more in terms of prices.

Written with translator.

Greetings
 

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I think many people can afford DSP via Roon, if they already are in the group that waste/spend money on Hifi. Then the DSP is included , not the best, but way better than nothing at all. Everyone with Roon should investigate the DSP. My system sounds problematic without DSP and good with. Before I had DSP I had too much bass with some speakers and too little with others. Very happy with my DSP, and I heard Lyngdorf do a good job too, and Dirac is surely good, Audiolence may be the best, but I do not like to fiddle with PC and HiFi
 

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I think many people can afford DSP via Roon, if they already are in the group that waste/spend money on Hifi. Then the DSP is included , not the best, but way better than nothing at all. Everyone with Roon should investigate the DSP. My system sounds problematic without DSP and good with. Before I had DSP I had too much bass with some speakers and too little with others. Very happy with my DSP, and I heard Lyngdorf do a good job too, and Dirac is surely good, Audiolence may be the best, but I do not like to fiddle with PC and HiFi
It is the best as it allows you absolute freedom. Almost every other Hardware EQ is limited in one way or another.
 
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I think many people can afford DSP via Roon, if they already are in the group that waste/spend money on Hifi. Then the DSP is included , not the best, but way better than nothing at all. Everyone with Roon should investigate the DSP. My system sounds problematic without DSP and good with. Before I had DSP I had too much bass with some speakers and too little with others. Very happy with my DSP, and I heard Lyngdorf do a good job too, and Dirac is surely good, Audiolence may be the best, but I do not like to fiddle with PC and HiFi
Roon DRC through DSP or PEQ is fine. However, the process is too tedious (the PEQ process is a little bit easier). If you go the full DSP route you will need a beefy Ron server.

However, you cannot use Roon to correct non-Roon sources, like TV or Spotify.
 
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