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Can anyone explain the vinyl renaissance?

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I recognise that, of course. But here's the thing: it doesn't matter. I'm describing my subjective response to what I hear, and that's all I'm interested in; maximising my subjective experience. The OP asked for perspectives on why there is a vinyl renaissance, and I gave mine. I respect your subjective experience too.

Why I think there's a vinyl renaissance? Its a Novelty. People gives excuses like "It sounds better" or "I can hold it in my hands". CDs sound better and you can hold a CD in your hands. If you see somebody buy a new LP over a CD, they don't care about sound quality. They think its neat hearing music on a format that's really old. If a person cares about sound quality, there gonna build an all-digital system and buy well-mastered CDs.

A record can last a 100 years but a CD can technically last forever through other digital formats and such.
There are several early CDs that are already sufficiently degraded to the point of making playback unreliable, especially on longer playing discs, at the Outer edges, and sometimes at the Inner edges. The famous "Perfect Sound Forever" claim was just a Myth...
 
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It makes tons of sense to me :)

First, if you are trying to make sense of the vinyl renaissance, you are least likely to get an accurate answer from someone who doesn't care for vinyl. We tend to be pretty poor at understanding why other people do things that we personally don't care for, and thus tend to resort to more facile "explanations" (e.g. "it's just a hipster thing" or whatever).

So...from someone who IS in to vinyl, here's my explanation (which I've given before since this question comes up every once in a while).

I was almost all digital music since the late 80's, and later ripped all my CDs to used a music server. I also added streaming. Now I could stream to my hi-fi system from the convenience of my listening sofa using my ipad or iphone. The world was my oyster! Endless choice at my finger tips. What could go wrong about that?

Well, human psychology can get in the way. It's like asking "Hey, you love the chocolate cake made by your favorite bakery, right? Well, how about having that EVERY DAY? Why wouldn't that be PERFECT?" It's a "seemed like a good idea at the time/be careful what you ask for" scenario.

I found myself constantly surfing music, as I would the internet, flicking to the next song, saving favourites I rarely re-visited, because there was always something new at my fingertips. I rarely listened to a full album. I had "Music ADD." I felt more disconnected from the music.

Further, digital music is absolutely ubiquitous: it's coming out of my desktop computer, my phone, from our smart speaker in the kitchen, our car. It's just constantly there and available and especially with streaming it's like music has become more like wallpaper, something in the background. Something cheap, endlessly available. Less special.

I found getting back in to vinyl solved my "music ADD." When I put on a record I feel more focused on the task of just listening to music. I virtually always get through an entire album side, and usually the full album. So while person A who isn't in to vinyl may find the "effort" a "distraction" to the music, person B may find it actually aids their focus on the music. I'm in the latter category.

I find I enjoy the physical aspects of actually holding the music in my hand when I pick up a record. Of seeing it transcribed in the grooves. Conceptually, it's really cool. A vinyl record in my hand can bring on nostalgia (e.g. one of the records I still own from my youth) or it can have "the thrill of the new" - a pristine, newly pressed, gorgeously packed just-released soundtrack in vinyl for instance. Holding a brand new beautifully designed album provides me FAR more pleasure than just tapping the screen yet again on my iphone.

And the fact it costs more for an album, as well as tracking down music on vinyl I want, means my music collection is more closely curated. I'm more connected to my music collection, I know it better, and I only have music I love.

I also like how buying new vinyl means more money going to the artist, rather than the pittance they get from streaming. It's one reason my brother, like so many musicians these days, is selling his music on vinyl. He can actually make a bit of money for his work. Most bands now want to release their music on vinyl. It's not only that they can make more money selling vinyl vs streaming. These days even many young musicians say that for them, holding their completed album in physical form, on a vinyl album, feels like the ultimate sense of "completion" and satisfaction. Rather than the music simply being sent off in to the digital ether. Humans have connections to physical things. Many young people who only ever interacted with music as 1s and 0s are discovering how this can change their relationship to their music.

And...turntables! Turntables are just COOL! (If you are in to them). I went all out and bought a neato turntable and it gives me an aesthetic, conceptual and tactile "kick" every time I use it. I get to interact with this cool object every time I spin music. Which, again, just pressing another button on my computer or swiping another "screen" is hardly a thrill these days.

In fact, playing vinyl allows me to unplug from the digital world. I'm on computers all day long, my phone tugging for attention all day long. Listening to a record is like taking a break from interacting with yet-more-god-damned-screens. Like reading a real book instead of picking up the ipad again.


Finally there is the sound.

Vinyl tends to sound different than digital. When I had my original modest turntable, I enjoyed the sound of vinyl as a different alternative to digital. When I upgraded my turntable vinyl sounded even better...fantastic actually. It sounded for the most part super clear and vivid, like my digital music, but also with a slight bit of "texture/tone" to the sound that I actually often preferred. Not always, but surprisingly often. (I have a good digital set up, Benchmark DAC 2L etc). PLUS, the way you can fiddle with the sound - different cartridges, cartridge settings, impedances and all that, scratches the "fun to tweak" audiophile itch in me, where my digital front end is just sort of set-and-forget.

So FOR ME, vinyl provides a significantly richer overall experience in terms of collecting and listening to music. I love the physical form, the art, holding albums in my hand, I love owning a neato turntable, I feel more connected to the music "physically" owning it, playing vinyl leads me to relax and focus better on just listening to music, and I get fantastic sound quality in the bargain.

Plus...I still have my digital to stream whenever I want to. (Which I still do).

As for the wider revival: yes there is a certain portion of "some people getting in to it because it's cool now." But for the most part you will find many elements of my experience repeated over and over from people who have got in to vinyl, whether it's long time audiophiles or young people who had become "dulled" by the ease and ubiquitous access to digital music, who find all sorts of pleasure from owning music in a physical form (and supporting artists, etc). If you go to, for instance, the reddit vinyl forums, you'll see posts every day by people just getting in to vinyl - often younger people - and how thrilled they are to own albums, to hunt them down, how much they like their newfangled turntable, etc.

This is why it's gone far past the point of "fad" and has been in an upward trajectory for around 15 years, with no signs of stopping.

Hope that helps you understand why other people are buying vinyl, even if it holds no appeal to you.

My turntable :)

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Excellent post. I can easily relate to every single aspect that you elaborate on. And you're absolutely right regarding Vinyl releases being better for recording Artists. Streaming has effectively ruined the livelihood of many Artists, both Old and New...
 
I have a handful of CD discs bought in the early 90s which have degraded or at least discoloured. Three CDs I have by Ozric Tentacles on the Dove Records label, have turned yellow pretty much and one is now unplayable, which is a great shame as subsequent long lasting discs and masterings didn't 'sound' as good to me, arguably because the absolute phase was opposite (oops, but come back the Bryston BP25P preamp I had with phase-invert switch)...

These days, I'm just grateful I'm still around to enjoy the music I have on whatever format, but twenty or thirty years ago, I'd have felt more strongly the vibe that @MattHooper espouses in a post above, although the safe-sounding speakers I seem to have ended up with, are balanced to get more out of digital/neutral analogue sources than a typical vinyl player no matter what the cost...
 
I guess you all know that Brian Wilson died recently.

About 20 years ago I went through my "Pet Sounds" phase. I had the CD but, as I was collecting lots of LPs in 2005, I had to have a copy of the original mono LP. In 2005 it was still easy to find good used LPs of popular titles for reasonable prices. So, I also got some of the titles that came shortly before and after Pet Sounds, like "Summer Days" and "Surf's Up".

This all came back to me yesterday as I was hearing the reconstructed "Smile" for the first time. I can stream it via Tidal. I realize one of the theoretical advantages of listening to LPs is that it "encourages" listening to an entire LP instead of skipping through tracks. But it really is the other way 'round. What with the difficulty of skipping tracks on an LP and the potential for damaging the stylus of the phono cartridge, LP playback discourages selecting specific songs. In the case of "Smile" we are supposedly listening to a classic among 1960's rock/pop records. But what I heard was a collection of pop masterpieces mixed with some jumbled filler. Exactly the sort of album where one would be better off with the highlights reel.

I'll go back and give the whole album a second shot. It's supposed to be a masterpiece, after all. However, with the other Beach Boys albums I snatched up at around $3 per, there were plenty of songs I'd skip in order to get to one I really liked. I'd rather skip over "Student Demonstration Time" in order to get to "Feel Flows". This sort of behavior led to buying a lot of replacement styluses. I'm sure there's audiophiles out there in the world who can cue up tracks on a spinning disc with aplomb, but not moi.
 
There are several early CDs that are already sufficiently degraded to the point of making playback unreliable, especially on longer playing discs, at the Outer edges, and sometimes at the Inner edges. The famous "Perfect Sound Forever" claim was just a Myth...

Oh, dear! Several CDs developed CD rot from shoddy manufacturing? Alert the media.

I've heard that several LPs were actually warped already at point of sale. But don't quote me!
 
Yes, I have. It's almost as good as a properly sorted digital playback system and a hell of a lot more expensive.
Is it? My turntable cost $180 used. My phono stage was $180. I got a replacement cartridge for $45. Maybe another $50 on bits and bobs like cleaning supplies etc. so for under $500 I have a system that for casual listening is indistinguishable from digital (as in people are surprised when the album ends and I have to flip or switch it out as they thought they were listening to streaming).

My digital source cost $1200. But it is a Mac Mini that does a lot more than just play back music (including removing pops and clicks from the vinyl playback), so not sure how to account for that. Everything else is shared between the systems.

Now, I can easily tell a difference if I a/b the chains, even blind, but it is not enough to impact enjoyment, for me.
 
Oh, dear! Several CDs developed CD rot from shoddy manufacturing? Alert the media.

I've heard that several LPs were actually warped already at point of sale. But don't quote me!
Well the solution is obvious for both cases. Just rip the vinyl and the cd, ensure you have a backup plan and done….
 
It's almost as good as a properly sorted digital playback system.
No matter how good a digital playback system is, it can never undo the damage that mastering practices do to the digital versions. You are lucky as you mostly listen to classical, but wander outside of that genre and you will quickly notice that digital releases are not without distortion and other issues either.
 
I guess you all know that Brian Wilson died recently.

About 20 years ago I went through my "Pet Sounds" phase. I had the CD but, as I was collecting lots of LPs in 2005, I had to have a copy of the original mono LP. In 2005 it was still easy to find good used LPs of popular titles for reasonable prices. So, I also got some of the titles that came shortly before and after Pet Sounds, like "Summer Days" and "Surf's Up".

This all came back to me yesterday as I was hearing the reconstructed "Smile" for the first time. I can stream it via Tidal. I realize one of the theoretical advantages of listening to LPs is that it "encourages" listening to an entire LP instead of skipping through tracks. But it really is the other way 'round. What with the difficulty of skipping tracks on an LP and the potential for damaging the stylus of the phono cartridge, LP playback discourages selecting specific songs. In the case of "Smile" we are supposedly listening to a classic among 1960's rock/pop records. But what I heard was a collection of pop masterpieces mixed with some jumbled filler. Exactly the sort of album where one would be better off with the highlights reel.

I'll go back and give the whole album a second shot. It's supposed to be a masterpiece, after all. However, with the other Beach Boys albums I snatched up at around $3 per, there were plenty of songs I'd skip in order to get to one I really liked. I'd rather skip over "Student Demonstration Time" in order to get to "Feel Flows". This sort of behavior led to buying a lot of replacement styluses. I'm sure there's audiophiles out there in the world who can cue up tracks on a spinning disc with aplomb, but not moi.
"This sort of behavior led to buying a lot of replacement styluses. I'm sure there's audiophiles out there in the world who can cue up tracks on a spinning disc with aplomb, but not moi."

Easiest thing to do safely, with a little practice. In my case it's almost a lifelong habit, since 15 years of age or so. I am now 60...
 
My take on vinyl revival is that for most people it is about the music.
For many here, from the nature of the comments, the music they play on their system is mostly a mean to evaluate sound. Since, even if we measured something at some point, what we hear is highly subjective, what we like is what we listen to.
Listening to vinyl, either in background while being attentive to something else or as a main activity appreciating every nuance and subtleties of the music playing, is very pleasant for many, more and more apparently.
Most can appreciate music from different source and set up, Vinyl bring a diversity to one of my favorite pastime, It makes my life ritcher and fuller, I am glad many people, young and old, keep it alive.
 
My take on vinyl revival is that for most people it is about the music.
For many here, from the nature of the comments, the music they play on their system is mostly a mean to evaluate sound. Since, even if we measured something at some point, what we hear is highly subjective, what we like is what we listen to.
Listening to vinyl, either in background while being attentive to something else or as a main activity appreciating every nuance and subtleties of the music playing, is very pleasant for many, more and more apparently.
Most can appreciate music from different source and set up, Vinyl bring a diversity to one of my favorite pastime, It makes my life ritcher and fuller, I am glad many people, young and old, keep it alive.

What Linn turntable do you have in your system? (Just assuming Linn based on your picture)
 
Only you would think of ripping a damaged record. You would obviously rip it before it was warped - I thought that would be apparent, but hey you be you.

Some guy snarked about rot developing in 'several' CDs.

I replied (emphasis added now):
"I've heard that several LPs were actually warped already at point of sale*. But don't quote me!"

So, godspeed you on your method. Time to get out the ironing board?

(Are my quips getting harder to understand?)
 
Some guy snarked about rot developing in 'several' CDs.

I replied (emphasis added now):
"I've heard that several LPs were actually warped already at point of sale*. But don't quote me!"

So, godspeed you on your method. Time to get out the ironing board?

(Are my quips getting harder to understand?)
Tower Records Berkeley California (worked there 1984-1987 or so) had a shrink wrap machine in the back room. Defective records were re-sealed and sent back to the floor. Most of the issues were with warps, as I recall.
 
I indeed missed your point upon first read. But still, it depends on the severity of the warping and the overall tracking ability of your Cartridge and Arm combination…
Not to mention how easily one can hear pitch deviation. Sorry, but warped and off-center records render them useless unless one is tone-deaf.
 
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