Can anyone explain the vinyl renaissance?

[Holmz]

I have many musicals on LP's but not this one. Now I have another one to seek out. Thanks!

Your post was about why the thread is so long and what people were still posting.

The sound track was from Don Quixote de la Manchia, and it is not because it is a great recording that I posted it.
But because some people like TTs.
One of the thrusts of the play was that DQ was a quest, and a quixotic quest.

 

[EJ3]

That's a tough gig. It's hard work looking after the elderly. Even tougher doing it single handed. Though you can take a positive that she still has her marbles.

You need to try to make time for yourself also.

Thank you!
I also take care of my fathers younger brother but really only on Wednesdays. He's physically fit but mentally intermittent. I go get him & take him places (mainly riding around & to lunch, to my mothers & back to his old folks home. A man that lives 2 doors down from my mother (but is in better shape than most 55 year old's mentally & physically (a marine that never stopped his exercises) goes and does the same with my Uncle on Sundays.
And I had 3 cervical vertebrae fused together not long ago, so getting it all done is an extra challenge. My wife has now retired but is visiting our son & her brother & sister overseas (since Jan 8 [she had not been in several years), said that she'll be back in June & can start helping out with this.
Yes, it is time consuming (and sometimes frustrating) but not worse.

 

[EJ3]

Your post was about why the thread is so long and what people were still posting.

Not that I know of. That would not be like me, certainly not about this subject.

The sound track was from Don Quixote de la Manchia, and it is not because it is a great recording that I posted it.
But because some people like TTs.

Yes, why I own a very well working DUAL 1229 and a TECHNICS SL-M3

One of the thrusts of the play was that DQ was a quest, and a quixotic quest.
While I have not seen the play, I have read the book.

The last 2 sentences in what I said was in reference the the person posting that it was a mystery that this thread is not closed (he is a vehemently outspoken anti-vinylist who gets on everything about vinyl and always tries to tell people that they should not listen to vinyl . And that seems to be at least one of the missions in his life.
So I wrote:
But here on this thread, I usually just skim over what you put out here, thinking: for a person that is so intelligent, yet he wastes his time on something that he cannot change: Again???
Reminiscent of Don Quixote.

 

[J.M. Noble]

From my perspective you are playing with your music. Every time you have to flip the side and re-drop the needle - every 20 minutes-ish. Those are interruptions I do not want.

I attended a performance of Mahler's Third Symphony today, which was 1 hour and 45 minutes with no intermission. A break every 20 minutes doesn't seem like a terrible idea.

I love streaming services (Apple Music Classical, yay), but a lot of the music on the vinyl I play isn't available anywhere else.

 

[MatrixS2000]

I attended a performance of Mahler's Third Symphony today, which was 1 hour and 45 minutes with no intermission. A break every 20 minutes doesn't seem like a terrible idea.

I don’t think it is a terrible idea, just that it is forced on to you. If I was to sit down for a 2 hr listening session, that does not mean I don’t get up during that entire time - after all how else am I going to get another beer or refill my drink?

I love streaming services (Apple Music Classical, yay), but a lot of the music on the vinyl I play isn't available anywhere else.

I use stream services for music discovery only, so I tend to jump around if I don’t like what I am hearing. Locally streaming is for longer listening.

 

[drewdawg999]

Getting back into vinyl after 45 years I hit a large learning curve over mastering and versions, maybe it was all out there then but I remember 3 choices standard issue, mobile fidelity and another I can't remember,
maybe something super disks. (Just dug into my pile and found The Cars self titled album, it's Nautilus Super Disks) That was always a no brainer. You wanted it, standard, you really WANTED IT, mobile or the other one.
I'm so bad right now I just know RL is a stamp of quality, I honestly did not know it's a person.
The SACD is the only one I have heard rivals the RL double 45,went to find their self titled RL but the only one around mint was 400 bucks. I can wait.
That is a heck of a collection, right up my alley, what's your address, grabbing the beer now and I'll be over.

So CHEERS! I just got the double 45 rpm of Rumours, here it is pressed by Furnace, a pressing plant which is now owned by Metallica:

This is actually not RL, it's mastered and cut by Kevin Gray (KPG) and Steve Hoffman (SH), who are both legends in mastering as well. First listen will have to wait until tomorrow, but I'm so stoked I got it for $40 on Amazon, kind of steep for one album, but this one's special so i feel fortunate. Also fortunate to have an old pressing of the self-titled that sounds decent, so no need to shell out for that one for me.

And just for kicks, here's more Robert Ludwig mastered albums from my collection:

Gotta love the Kinks!

 

[Laika2]

So CHEERS! I just got the double 45 rpm of Rumours, here it is pressed by Furnace, a pressing plant which is now owned by Metallica:
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This is actually not RL, it's mastered and cut by Kevin Gray (KPG) and Steve Hoffman (SH), who are both legends in mastering as well. First listen will have to wait until tomorrow, but I'm so stoked I got it for $40 on Amazon, kind of steep for one album, but this one's special so i feel fortunate. Also fortunate to have an old pressing of the self-titled that sounds decent, so no need to shell out for that one for me.

And just for kicks, here's more Robert Ludwig mastered albums from my collection:
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Gotta love the Kinks!

Nice, the advice I got was get the double 45, asked what print and was told they are all solid. And yea, gotta love the kinks. Saddly not remembered like the Stones in this age of streaming.
Let us know how it sounds. I think it was the biggest WOW I have had from a different pressing.

 

[drewdawg999]

Nice, the advice I got was get the double 45, asked what print and was told they are all solid. And yea, gotta love the kinks. Saddly not remembered like the Stones in this age of streaming.
Let us know how it sounds. I think it was the biggest WOW I have had from a different pressing.

So yeah, the Rumours double 45rpm I got was the Furnace 2024 pressing, though the description on Amazon said 2011, which would be Pallas and a Record Store Day special, so not bloody likely to get that new now. There was also a Pallas repress in 2020. But they should all sound identical anyways. Gave it a listen today and yes, WOW, big improvement over my Super Saver copy, not muddy but very warm and bassy. So bassy that I had to turn down the subwoofer to strike a balance. But that sound signature I think matches the decadent '70s atmosphere of the album, the heavy note weight really working for the music. Also listened to the CD I made that downsampled the SACD to redbook and that sounds outstanding as well, but very different. More clarity and definition, a lot less bass. I actually made a short vid that compares the two:

(Please pump it up.) There's a comment that the room acoustics make it sound horrible. That may be the case, maybe it's because it's a cell capture in mono, but still the differences between the 2 can be clearly heard. I don't have to choose between the 2 so I won't.

 

[Laika2]

So yeah, the Rumours double 45rpm I got was the Furnace 2024 pressing, though the description on Amazon said 2011, which would be Pallas and a Record Store Day special, so not bloody likely to get that new now. There was also a Pallas repress in 2020. But they should all sound identical anyways. Gave it a listen today and yes, WOW, big improvement over my Super Saver copy, not muddy but very warm and bassy. So bassy that I had to turn down the subwoofer to strike a balance. But that sound signature I think matches the decadent '70s atmosphere of the album, the heavy note weight really working for the music. Also listened to the CD I made that downsampled the SACD to redbook and that sounds outstanding as well, but very different. More clarity and definition, a lot less bass. I actually made a short vid that compares the two:

(Please pump it up.) There's a comment that the room acoustics make it sound horrible. That may be the case, maybe it's because it's a cell capture in mono, but still the differences between the 2 can be clearly heard. I don't have to choose between the 2 so I won't.

Too cool, Yea, That's the nice thing moon can dictate what mix you want to hear. Liked my bass, on a few songs to tended to overshadow the mids, have a slight bit of Dirac to to do one of these days. The SACD sounds like my old mobile fidelity version. They were going to put Tusk on 3 45 12"ers a few years back. Never came out. I would buy that day one. Love Rumors but it's been played to death for 50 years no matter where you got, Tusk has slowly grown to my fav of the Buckingham Nicks era. Very experimental and no something played at the dentist while they jerk my teeth around.

Man, I though I had a nice table, what is that you have, looks like the same brand I saw a few months ago that was not a table mount but went clear down to the floor and looked like it weighed 1000 lbs. Had the same cylinders and what Cartridge(s) are you running. I'm running a Project Pro RPM 5 carbon with a Ortfon Black LVB 250. And slightly lesser table with the same cartridge in the living room. Would love to run a mono cartridge but none of mine have removable head-shells. (Been kicking around a Rega Planer 3 and a mono cart for a 3rd table for a few months, one of those things that is either going to grow in my mind till I just do it or die, wish I had a few more monos to push me over the edge.

Man that table of yours is a work of art. Looks very heavy,

 

[drewdawg999]

Too cool, Yea, That's the nice thing moon can dictate what mix you want to hear. Liked my bass, on a few songs to tended to overshadow the mids, have a slight bit of Dirac to to do one of these days. The SACD sounds like my old mobile fidelity version. They were going to put Tusk on 3 45 12"ers a few years back. Never came out. I would buy that day one. Love Rumors but it's been played to death for 50 years no matter where you got, Tusk has slowly grown to my fav of the Buckingham Nicks era. Very experimental and no something played at the dentist while they jerk my teeth around.

Yeah I've heard Rumours a lot, mostly on CD though. Giving the 45 a second spin, and it's definitely great, a sonic achievement. Supposedly a tough mastering job per Kevin Gray, since it was recorded in many different places. I'm a Tusk lover as well, my copy was 99 cents, discounted for being dusty. I got a VPI cleaner just for this stuff, now it's perfectly fine. Love the onslaught of great songs, one after another, culminating in the title track.

Man, I though I had a nice table, what is that you have, looks like the same brand I saw a few months ago that was not a table mount but went clear down to the floor and looked like it weighed 1000 lbs. Had the same cylinders and what Cartridge(s) are you running. I'm running a Project Pro RPM 5 carbon with a Ortfon Black LVB 250. And slightly lesser table with the same cartridge in the living room. Would love to run a mono cartridge but none of mine have removable head-shells. (Been kicking around a Rega Planer 3 and a mono cart for a 3rd table for a few months, one of those things that is either going to grow in my mind till I just do it or die, wish I had a few more monos to push me over the edge.

Man that table of yours is a work of art. Looks very heavy,

Yeah table is a Michell Gyro SE with Tecnoarm. It costs a small fortune nowadays, I got it for much less 10 years ago. Stanley Kubrick chose a Michell table for A Clockwork Orange, table of the future playing the old Ludwig Van. I agree it's beautiful and sounds equally great. Cart is an old Koetsu Black that I had repaired and re-tipped by VAS. Really lush and romantic cart, euphonic and musical, to be totally subjective for a moment. Everything's running tip-top in my analogue right now, sounding glorious on the best vinyl can offer. Just spun Fleetwood Mac s/t, Rumours, now Tusk. I'm missing Mirage and Tango in the Night in my collection, perhaps I need to rectify that somehow. Gotta love the Mac!

 

[egellings]

That would depend on what your point of listening to vinyl is. For me it is not about that ritual you always point to - that is a repeated workload that I don’t want to do when I just want to listen to music. I get it that that workload is your point of listening to vinyl, but it is definitely a negative but controllable aspect to vinyl in my case.


From my perspective you are playing with your music. Every time you have to flip the side and re-drop the needle - every 20 minutes-ish. Those are interruptions I do not want.


The great thing about perspectives, is they are different and all are valid.

Not a problem for me. At about the time an album flip or change is needed, my beer runs out, so I'd have to get up anyway. Timing couldn't be better.

 

[Laika2]

Yeah I've heard Rumours a lot, mostly on CD though. Giving the 45 a second spin, and it's definitely great, a sonic achievement. Supposedly a tough mastering job per Kevin Gray, since it was recorded in many different places. I'm a Tusk lover as well, my copy was 99 cents, discounted for being dusty. I got a VPI cleaner just for this stuff, now it's perfectly fine. Love the onslaught of great songs, one after another, culminating in the title track.

Yeah table is a Michell Gyro SE with Tecnoarm. It costs a small fortune nowadays, I got it for much less 10 years ago. Stanley Kubrick chose a Michell table for A Clockwork Orange, table of the future playing the old Ludwig Van. I agree it's beautiful and sounds equally great. Cart is an old Koetsu Black that I had repaired and re-tipped by VAS. Really lush and romantic cart, euphonic and musical, to be totally subjective for a moment. Everything's running tip-top in my analogue right now, sounding glorious on the best vinyl can offer. Just spun Fleetwood Mac s/t, Rumours, now Tusk. I'm missing Mirage and Tango in the Night in my collection, perhaps I need to rectify that somehow. Gotta love the Mac!

I need to watch that movie again. Great movie but not a fun movie. I will have to be in the right mood but often enjoy a not nice movie. The singing in the rain scene is a mast of black comedy, one of those where you laugh and then feel odd for laughing.

I did see one a Gyro, not sure what it was called but it was that huge one that went to the floor with tons of weights. It was in a rich guys home in Omaha right inside the front door. No idea why it was there but it seemed that's where they wanted it as it seemed well displayed permanently. It's about 5 feet into the entrance maybe 10 feet square all tile, no speakers or anything was hooked up at all. Maybe they did latter but it seems everything else would be somewhere else in this mansion and you almost walk out of the house to flip a LP.

I have Mirage and Tango and live from way back, they were good but not my fav, don't think I will update those. Looked through my Tusk collection last night. Forgot all about it being the 80's. People expected the hit factory of Rumors, Tusk did not sell well but the company expected Rumors sales an printed a ton of them. Within a month they were in the Used section but were not used, just had that hole or slot to indicate a cut out.

I know I bought a few encase mine got scratched at a party. I guess I went nutts, Nine brand new unopened cut outs of Tusk, I see why I did it, every one has a 99 cents sticker or less. Need to sell most of them. No more parties, no more scratched records. Will keep a few.

 

[drewdawg999]

I need to watch that movie again. Great movie but not a fun movie. I will have to be in the right mood but often enjoy a not nice movie. The singing in the rain scene is a mast of black comedy, one of those where you laugh and then feel odd for laughing.

I think A Clockwork Orange is a great masterpiece, in the sickest way imaginable. It's so perverted and ultra-violent it tests your tolerance for such things. Read the book too, also brilliant and sick, perverted and hilarious.

I did see one a Gyro, not sure what it was called but it was that huge one that went to the floor with tons of weights. It was in a rich guys home in Omaha right inside the front door. No idea why it was there but it seemed that's where they wanted it as it seemed well displayed permanently. It's about 5 feet into the entrance maybe 10 feet square all tile, no speakers or anything was hooked up at all. Maybe they did latter but it seems everything else would be somewhere else in this mansion and you almost walk out of the house to flip a LP.

That sounds like the Clearaudio Statement, a $275,000 behemoth. Michell's flagship is called the Orbe, quite pricey but not astronomical. Quality British engineering. The Gyro has sold in something close to its current form since the '80s, stone cold classic.

I have Mirage and Tango and live from way back, they were good but not my fav, don't think I will update those. Looked through my Tusk collection last night. Forgot all about it being the 80's. People expected the hit factory of Rumors, Tusk did not sell well but the company expected Rumors sales an printed a ton of them. Within a month they were in the Used section but were not used, just had that hole or slot to indicate a cut out.

I know they're not peak Mac but there's still some great songs on there and some pretty big hits, including the ubiquitous Everywhere. Also love Gypsy, Little Lies, and every Christine song.

I know I bought a few encase mine got scratched at a party. I guess I went nutts, Nine brand new unopened cut outs of Tusk, I see why I did it, every one has a 99 cents sticker or less. Need to sell most of them. No more parties, no more scratched records. Will keep a few.

You are ready for the Tusk apocalypse. My dollar copy sounds quite awesome, expertly mastered by Ken Perry. Totally clean, sounds like a decadent '70s party, completely groovy.

 

[Laika2]

I think A Clockwork Orange is a great masterpiece, in the sickest way imaginable. It's so perverted and ultra-violent it tests your tolerance for such things. Read the book too, also brilliant and sick, perverted and hilarious.

Exactly, read the book, also 2001, have to read the book before the movie to understand what is happening and why, HALL is obvious but without the book and the monolith as a "trigger" very little will make sense, especially the end.

That sounds like the Clearaudio Statement, a $275,000 behemoth. Michell's flagship is called the Orbe, quite pricey but not astronomical. Quality British engineering. The Gyro has sold in something close to its current form since the '80s, stone cold classic.

That's it, I would hate to move it.

I know they're not peak Mac but there's still some great songs on there and some pretty big hits, including the ubiquitous Everywhere. Also love Gypsy, Little Lies, and every Christine song.

No doubt, happy with the sound. Buckingham McVie which I did not know existed till years latter is quite good.

You are ready for the Tusk apocalypse. My dollar copy sounds quite awesome, expertly mastered by Ken Perry. Totally clean, sounds like a decadent '70s party, completely groovy.

Yea, If I never see the 45rpm version no big deal. I'm not sure how much you can add to it. It's a rock solid mix.

 

[MattHooper]

Someone made an interesting “ vinyl player”:

I’m not sure if the person is a design student or what, but this is a sort of proof of concept all in one system.

Probably something of a nightmare in terms of actual sound quality, but some clever, thinking nonetheless. Apparently all the movement works on internal ropes:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vinyl/s/BIt3SADjGL

 

[egellings]

Feedback, with the TT mounted on the speaker system, could be a problem.

 

[AdrianusG]

Someone made an interesting “ vinyl player”:

I’m not sure if the person is a design student or what, but this is a sort of proof of concept all in one system.

Probably something of a nightmare in terms of actual sound quality, but some clever, thinking nonetheless. Apparently all the movement works on internal ropes:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vinyl/s/BIt3SADjGL

Don't know how it will sound, but looks a lot better than some of those .....ahum "high end" behemoths to me, quite cool

 

[MatrixS2000]

Someone made an interesting “ vinyl player”:

I’m not sure if the person is a design student or what, but this is a sort of proof of concept all in one system.

Probably something of a nightmare in terms of actual sound quality, but some clever, thinking nonetheless. Apparently all the movement works on internal ropes:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vinyl/s/BIt3SADjGL

Admire the wood working skill needed to build that, but I just doesn’t hold enough records!

 

[Cote Dazur]

Vinyl record sales set to surge again over Record Store Day 2025

Saturday 12th April is Record Store Day, and since winter is coming, what better way to pass the time than popping on a vinyl album and cosying up to some quality music? There’s a warmth to vinyl t…

creammagazine.com

Vinyl record sales set to surge again over Record Store Day 2025​

In 2025, the global vinyl record market is projected to reach USD 3.5 billion, with a CAGR of 6.8% between 2025 and 2033.

 

[deweydm]

Vinyl record sales set to surge again over Record Store Day 2025

Saturday 12th April is Record Store Day, and since winter is coming, what better way to pass the time than popping on a vinyl album and cosying up to some quality music? There’s a warmth to vinyl t…

creammagazine.com

Vinyl record sales set to surge again over Record Store Day 2025​

In 2025, the global vinyl record market is projected to reach USD 3.5 billion, with a CAGR of 6.8% between 2025 and 2033.

Gah. Imposters! As someone who grew up around Detroit I’m offended.

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