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Can anyone explain the vinyl renaissance?

I made some short rips today of more old and a bit odd recordings, and they are a bit noisy even after washing them. The first one by Vagif Mustafa Zadeh, a record which was made around 1975. This one needs RT-clickrepair to be click-free, and the below recordings have been mildly "repaired". One can compare it to the youtube rip in post https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...vinyl-renaissance.32420/page-528#post-2197289


I usually do not listen to so much classic music on vinyl, but this one by a young Spivakov playing Tchaikovski from 1974 gets played now and then. I like his "nerve", below a part of it.


Feel free to listen and judge, will be deleting the files in a week.
 
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Sure looks like you’re having fun!



Same here (I’m a Canuck). Huge fan, I saw them in concert a number of times starting with the hemispheres tour. I was one of those who got off the Rush train after signals, after which for me, they lost their songwriting Mojo.

I’ve been listening to the CDs of their albums on and off for decades, though not as a fanatical fan would at that point. One of the things I really enjoyed when I got back into records with picking up the wonderful remastered vinyl releases of their albums. They sound amazing and frankly to seem to sort of blast through the speakers with more energy than the CD versions did. Getting the LPs actually got me back pretty heavily into rush, which was a blast.

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;)

Never got to see them in concert. First I was too young and then schooling never allowed, then work and then Military just seemed to keep moving me around too much and finding "reasons" why I "couldn't be spared".... :cool:

Just never got in a postion to be able to go. Not too broken up about it though. It's just a concert after all, life has many more important things that need doing....
 
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I'm also a RUSH fan.
Welcome fellow RUSH fan!!!! It all started for me when I first heard “Tom Sawyer”, then I had to get all their previous material and that is still some of my favourite Prog. Rock.

If you have not tried Crown Lands, I highly recommend you give them a listen. 2 person band heavily influenced by RUSH.

Fearless is a masterpiece imo.


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Crown Lands - Fearless
 
Welcome fellow RUSH fan!!!! It all started for me when I first heard “Tom Sawyer”, then I had to get all their previous material and that is still some of my favourite Prog. Rock.

If you have not tried Crown Lands, I highly recommend you give them a listen. 2 person band heavily influenced by RUSH.

Fearless is a masterpiece imo.


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Crown Lands - Fearless
I'll give 'em listen.

I'll offer up a Welsh band called "Budgie". Very much an early RUSH/Zepplin vibe:


They predate RUSH (1967) and were billed as one of the Pioneers of New Wave Heavy metal. IOW: Prog rock.

The similarities to early RUSH in appearance, composition and sound is pretty wild....
 
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I made some short rips today of more old and a bit odd recordings, and they are a bit noisy even after washing them. The first one by Vagif Mustafa Zadeh, a record which was made around 1975. This one needs RT-clickrepair to be click-free, and the below recordings have been mildly "repaired". One can compare it to the youtube rip in post https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...vinyl-renaissance.32420/page-528#post-2197289


I usually do not listen to so much classic music on vinyl, but this one by a young Spivakov playing Tchaikovski from 1974 gets played now and then. I like his "nerve", below a part of it.


Feel free to listen and judge, will be deleting the files in a week.
Regarding the Spivakov;

I found a digital remaster on Youtube, please have a listen from 6:18 on the orchestra violins::


My vinyl copy:

 
I'll give 'em listen.

I'll offer up a Welsh band called "Budgie". Very much an early RUSH/Zepplin vibe:
I know of Budgie, good band.
The similarities to early RUSH in appearance, composition and sound is pretty wild....
Wait till you hear Crown Lands. :)

BTW, Crown Lands are also Canadian. From Oshawa and they feature Jesus on guitars and keys. The talent is just spectacular. Here they are live playing Starlifter.


And to keep this on the thread theme, the vinyl is excellent.
 
Of the several hundred original LP's I have compared to later re-mastered digital versions RUSH by far has the biggest variation between the original LP and later digital versions. I have read that in the US at least the original LP's were mastered with lots of EQ on Geddy Lee's voice in order for it to "stand out" on the radio. Later remastered releases have trended toward less EQ. This brings up an old discussion on this thread of "what is original" the master tape or the released version which sold millions of copies and made the song famous. I always like to hear the "original" LP version both because it is the version I grew up listening to so it "sounds right" and to gain some historical and artistic context of what sound made the song famous in the first place.

Check out linked original Rush 2112 LP version vs Qobuz version. If you never heard the original version it may be a shock.... but to me it sounds "right" and the modern toned down version sounds "wrong".

While not a large reason for the renaissance "hearing the original" is part of the appeal for me and others as I see this discussed quite a bit on some forums (mostly SH).

 
Of the several hundred original LP's I have compared to later re-mastered digital versions RUSH by far has the biggest variation between the original LP and later digital versions. I have read that in the US at least the original LP's were mastered with lots of EQ on Geddy Lee's voice in order for it to "stand out" on the radio. Later remastered releases have trended toward less EQ. This brings up an old discussion on this thread of "what is original" the master tape or the released version which sold millions of copies and made the song famous. I always like to hear the "original" LP version both because it is the version I grew up listening to so it "sounds right" and to gain some historical and artistic context of what sound made the song famous in the first place.

Check out linked original Rush 2112 LP version vs Qobuz version. If you never heard the original version it may be a shock.... but to me it sounds "right" and the modern toned down version sounds "wrong".

While not a large reason for the renaissance "hearing the original" is part of the appeal for me and others as I see this discussed quite a bit on some forums (mostly SH).

I've got both the original 2112 (or at least the year it was released because that's the year I bought it, its a "GK" pressing) and the 40th anniversary release. Both sound good to me. A little different maybe, but both good. Have to just appreciate them for what they are. To me, comparisons are always disappointing in one way or another. But that's just me and my old ears.

Vive le difference!

:)
 
I can understand the vinyl reemergence in car terms. If I step back in even an early 2000s model car maybe an early 90s let alone a pre-75 model year, it has a cable analog throttle, mechanical/analog hydraulic power steering, sometimes manual steering, maybe a manual transmission but even if automatic it's not a CVT or a really digitally finessed transmission. It's a different experience, especially if comparing say a very mechanical/analog 70s to early 80s Camaro/Mustang to a 2020s. The vintage model is very technical performance inferior, but some of the mechanical/analog aspects of the vintage model are actually a superior experience.

I see the end product let's say a very analog/mechanical '83 Mustang HO 5 speed manual and a new Mustang to be the same, a loudspeaker. How you got to the speaker was a different experience one more analog/mechanical the other more electronic digital, and maybe the end result in performance is like vinyl vs digital streaming.

Also, I see the nostalgia angle. In 1983, the Mustang was nice for its time, but it's all there was and you tired of it maybe stalling when cold, vapor locking, needing tune ups, shifting got to be a pain etc. You longed for something technically better like the new Mustang of the future. But living with the modern Mustang every day, it took all the rawness and life out of the car, and it has too many features that can be overwhelming and taken for granted. So you long for a 1983 model and a simpler, more raw and alive experience. The grass is always greener on the other side.
 
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kind of odd you would pick that specific car as a metaphor. I've go a 1983 302 5 speed Mustang sitting in my garage as we speak.....have since 1983.

lol!
 
kind of odd you would pick that specific car as a metaphor. I've go a 1983 302 5 speed Mustang sitting in my garage as we speak.....have since 1983.

lol!
Nice. I couldn't think of a better example of one of the last really analog, reasonably priced top performance cars of the time that people liked to tinker with. :D It really seemed to me just like going back to vintage vinyl records and player from just before when CDs came out.
 
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Nice. I couldn't think of a better example of one of the last really analog, reasonably priced top performance cars of the time that people liked to tinker with. :D It really seemed to me just like going back to a vintage vinyl records and player from just before when CDs came out.
Oh, I tinker with it alright:

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Built it as an autocrosser. 20 grand of suspension under it. Full Maximum motorsports torque arm rear and lots of other bits.

Same as I like to "tinker" with my Dual 1249 and 1229Q TT's:

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"Wrenching" is my happy place...turns out retirement isn't that bad after all. I get to have the life I want instead of "workin' for the man"...

.;)
 
Of the several hundred original LP's I have compared to later re-mastered digital versions RUSH by far has the biggest variation between the original LP and later digital versions. I have read that in the US at least the original LP's were mastered with lots of EQ on Geddy Lee's voice in order for it to "stand out" on the radio. Later remastered releases have trended toward less EQ. This brings up an old discussion on this thread of "what is original" the master tape or the released version which sold millions of copies and made the song famous. I always like to hear the "original" LP version both because it is the version I grew up listening to so it "sounds right" and to gain some historical and artistic context of what sound made the song famous in the first place.

Check out linked original Rush 2112 LP version vs Qobuz version. If you never heard the original version it may be a shock.... but to me it sounds "right" and the modern toned down version sounds "wrong".

While not a large reason for the renaissance "hearing the original" is part of the appeal for me and others as I see this discussed quite a bit on some forums (mostly SH).


Thanks that was interesting.

And giving them a quick listen, it does generally mirror the type of differences I hear between the vinyl versions I have and digital versions. The vinyl has a sort of pushing out of the speakers energy, and as you put it the digital version sounds a bit more closed down.
 

A typical example of these articles, which may even be written by AI at this point :-(

One of the reasons given for why people are turning to records:

Unique Sound Quality​

While a streamed song sounds ‘cold’, vinyl produces a rich, warm, and more organic sound with unobtrusive pops and crackles that add a unique quality to the experience. Even if these effects are added to digital music, it still lacks the more ‘real’ sound of records.

How could you possibly argue ? :)

It’s 2025, this stuff is still being propagated, which must keep the anti-vinyl-revival crusaders up at night.
 
I've heard both digital and analogue recordings that sound great and some that sound awful.

I've also heard digital and analogue recordings on vinyl, some that sound great, others that sound awful, but both with added surface noise. :)
 
Oh, I tinker with it alright:

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Built it as an autocrosser. 20 grand of suspension under it. Full Maximum motorsports torque arm rear and lots of other bits.

Same as I like to "tinker" with my Dual 1249 and 1229Q TT's:

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"Wrenching" is my happy place...turns out retirement isn't that bad after all. I get to have the life I want instead of "workin' for the man"...

.;)
Woah that is some serious car and turntable tinkering. I appreciate you made the car handle and not just for drag racing as is usual, although it can clearly do that too.

I didn't use turntables especially not higher end very much back in the day before they were being phased out and didn't remember how much complex mechanical linkage was underneath a higher end vintage turntable. It's like an old mechanical clock lol.
 

A typical example of these articles, which may even be written by AI at this point :-(

One of the reasons given for why people are turning to records:

Unique Sound Quality​

While a streamed song sounds ‘cold’, vinyl produces a rich, warm, and more organic sound with unobtrusive pops and crackles that add a unique quality to the experience. Even if these effects are added to digital music, it still lacks the more ‘real’ sound of records.

How could you possibly argue ? :)

It’s 2025, this stuff is still being propagated, which must keep the anti-vinyl-revival crusaders up at night.

Ah, this is just an ad for an online record store...

While digital music certainly has its place, there’s no denying the enduring and far-reaching appeal of vinyl records. If you’re ready to join the revival, Dig In Records has a diverse selection of classic and contemporary records that will transform the way you appreciate music.
The store itself may want to know about these claims. They actually have more CDs for sale than second hand records as of now, and state:
CDs
Trusty, sturdy, durable, and crisp sounding, it won’t be long before we realise the pure tiny beauty of this listening format.
I know it's cold in the UK at the moment though and maybe some customers want music to match :)

 
Woah that is some serious car and turntable tinkering. I appreciate you made the car handle and not just for drag racing as is usual, although it can clearly do that too.

I didn't use turntables especially not higher end very much back in the day before they were being phased out and didn't remember how much complex mechanical linkage was underneath a higher end vintage turntable. It's like an old mechanical clock lol.
They're not all like that. Dual's a pretty much all mechanical, which is what drew me to them. No electronic bits to be discontinued/obsoleted or that become 'unobtainium". Brands like Thorens, Garrard etc and such pretty much the same. All the others tend to have more "electronics" in them.

While the 1249 and 1229Q are Dual's TOTL models for changers (in their respective years), the Dual brand itself is considered somewhere around "mid-fi" (possibly upper mid-fi)....even their top end models. They work well enough for me though. I tend to not get caught up in all that "audiophile" stuff. If it sounds good to me, it's good enuff....:)

My other cars are an 88 Corvette Z52 and a 09 Mini Cooper Clubman:

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Those are just the summer fun cars. There's about 4-5 bike liter bikes as well. All bought for not much and i rebuilt them or have just been holding on to them for a long time. My regular driver is a 2016 F150 CCLB Lariat and the wife has a 2024 I6 EV.

All that and there's only two drivers in our household, lol!

I'm not the typical North American (well, Canadian) car guy. I like my cars to handle s well as they go....;)

I'll stop with the car pics now, not in keeping with the forum and I've probably already gone a bit too far with them....;)
 
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Since all audiophile threads, given long enough, devolve into talk about watches and cars, I’m surprised this one took so long to get here. :)
 
They're not all like that. Dual's a pretty much all mechanical, which is what drew me to them. No electronic bits to be discontinued/obsoleted or that become 'unobtainium". Brands like Thorens, Garrard etc and such pretty much the same. All the others tend to have more "electronics" in them.

While the 1249 and 1229Q are Dual's TOTL models for changers (in their respective years), the Dual brand itself is considered somewhere around "mid-fi" (possibly upper mid-fi)....even their top end models. They work well enough for me though. I tend to not get caught up in all that "audiophile" stuff. If it sounds good to me, it's good enuff....:)

My other cars are an 88 Corvette Z52 and a 09 Mini Cooper Clubman:

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Those are just the summer fun cars. There's about 4-5 bike liter bikes as well. All bought for not much and i rebuilt them or have just been holding on to them for a long time. My regular driver is a 2016 F150 CCLB Lariat and the wife has a 2024 I6 EV.

All that and there's only two drivers in our household, lol!

I'm not the typical North American (well, Canadian) car guy. I like my cars to handle s well as they go....;)

I'll stop with the car pics now, not in keeping with the forum and I've probably already gone a bit too far with them....;)
Yeah I didn't think most turntables were as mechanically intricate as your Duals. I really don't have much experience with turntables like those one. I seemed to remember most young people like myself at the time were using cassettes in the early 80s for the mobility factor.

It's partly my fault it drifted into cars, but I do think it's analogous to the interest in vintage records and turntables. I enjoyed the pics. I think we have similar interests and good tastes in machines :) .
 
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