Robin L
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As the screenshot Newman provided says "Hi-Rez Lossless" and "Dolby Atmos" it must be some sort of a remix. But I haven't seen anything about a remixed CD. Not that it would matter to me as I perfectly happy with my CDs.
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Can anyone explain the vinyl renaissance?
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Is this it, folks?
Vinyl Sales Plummet by 33% in 2024 After A Decade of Rapid Growth
Vinyl Sales Plummet by 33% in 2024 After A Decade of Rapid Growth
Is the vinyl comeback losing steam?www.headphonesty.com
For quite a while on the vinyl forums I’ve seen complaints about the increased price of vinyl records. I’ve seen quite a number of people saying they’ve stopped buying for now because of it, or at least have significantly slowed their purchases. I was wondering when this was going to finally show up in sales and perhaps this is it. Though the article goes into speculating various reasons for the current dip in sales.
Reddit vinyl forum reaction:
I’ve seen a few people in the vinyl forums suggesting the headline is misleading.
One such comment:
“Repost AND misleading as the data company that supplies Billboard has said they’ve changed their way of measuring. When you look at the previous way of measuring they’re up 6%.”
I don’t know if this is true or not. I do remember something in some articles earlier saying something similar. (How’s that for ace reporting?!!)
Well, there seem to be many records and variants. The original source series, as they say, is a remix from the original 4 or 8-track tapes, which again is no mention to be released on another medium than 2-channel vinyl. Which is sad if true, but it may also become collectors items for that same reason.
So many good reasons for the renaissance ...
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There was something posted here last year about sales from a range of independent stores not getting counted in future years, so I can quite believe it.
How you would correctly estimate sales under the old system without carrying out the old measurement, I'm not sure. Some of the people left out in the new measurement would have an interest in talking the alternative number up, as well.
Given the sales of a few big artists in the first half of 2024 (you all know who I'm referring to here, I'm sure) I would not be surprised if, should someone calculate 2023 sales by the new method, the increase for 2024 turned out to be a lot more than 6%. I was trying to find numbers before responding.
I saw some articles suggesting that UK sales of both CDs and LPs may be heavily undercounted, and that the UK charts have been unrepresentative for several years, as different companies and artists have to pay the company compiling the "official" charts to get different channels of sales and streams counted. I've not found anything I'd be prepared to post, but it looks like the sales figures I quoted to show that the UK was behind the US in terms of the sales revival, just might be fantasy.
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Vinyl sales drop 33⅓ as greed threatens to ruin the revival
Vinyl sales are slumping after years of growth. Is greed killing the golden goose of old-school audio?
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I saw this
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If you look at 2009, Susan Boyle sold 8.3M copies of her album. (Global sales).
Taylor Swift only sold 2.8M copies of 1989 (Taylor’s Version) of which 2M was on the U.S.
On the global list, it is all K-pop.
The drop in vinyl sales seems to more accurately reflect a dying interest in physical media across the board.
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If you look at 2009, Susan Boyle sold 8.3M copies of her album. (Global sales).
Taylor Swift, SEVENTEEN Dominate IFPI Global Album Charts For 2023
An “unprecedented” 19 of the top 20 titles on the IFPI Global Album Sales Chart were created by South Korean acts.
www.billboard.com
Taylor Swift only sold 2.8M copies of 1989 (Taylor’s Version) of which 2M was on the U.S.
On the global list, it is all K-pop.
The drop in vinyl sales seems to more accurately reflect a dying interest in physical media across the board.
Can someone help me find equipment for playing shellac and wax cylinders? I think that's the ultimate in soulful reproduction media. And even more inconvenient than 78 RPM.
Robin L
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Funny, back in 1977 I was working at Rare Records Glendale. They had wax cylinder players. Long out of business, naturally.
olds1959special
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I added an Audio Technical AT-LP70X to my system, and bought 3 used records. My third record was skipping all over the place, and had to try to repair it with the sharp piece of chopstick, (which sort of worked.) and I already had the album on Apple Music. So I won't buy records anymore unless they are rare recordings that are not available on streaming platforms. I had slight issues with my second record skipping too. I know my turntable is known to not be the best at tracking and the tracking force is pre-set.
Since it's hard to find music that's not on streaming I probably won't buy many more records. But I will visit record stores and take my time to look for those things I've never heard. Hopefully the vinyl will be in decent condition too, and not skip.
Since it's hard to find music that's not on streaming I probably won't buy many more records. But I will visit record stores and take my time to look for those things I've never heard. Hopefully the vinyl will be in decent condition too, and not skip.
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From https://www.discogs.com/digs/collecting/vinyl-sales-up-in-2024/:
In Luminate’s mid-year report, the company stated: “While the new modeled methodology more accurately represents the independent retail market, we do not have comparable historical data to provide an accurate year-over-year trend. Therefore, independent retail physical sales are not included in our H1 2024 vs. H1 2023 U.S. physical sales reporting.”
The “Market Watch” report has displayed incorrect year-over-year data since the methodology changed.
Taking this year-over-year methodology into account, Luminate now claims that vinyl sales are up 6.2 percent. This number does not include independent record stores from 2023 or 2024.
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Combination of prices getting too high and the inconvenience involved in playing records vs the ease of streaming. The only real "advantage" records have over CDs and streaming is the larger container with bigger album art.
The size and weight can also be an issue.
Robin L
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Switched over to Tidal yesterday, happy with the results save that a lot of historical recordings I'm interested in have horrid remasters. Oh well . . .
olds1959special
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Check out Quboz too. I used to use Tidal but in the end didn't like the sound of MQA.
Robin L
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No MQA anymore. Their highest tier is hi-rez PCM, but doesn't matter in my case anyway as my DAC only plays back in 16/44.1 or 48. In any case, I'm happy with the sound quality. Has a lot more to do with the mastering than the format, as we should all know by now.
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