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Can anyone explain the vinyl renaissance?

Good grief, Newman.

How did you possibly draw that ridiculous inference from his post that he didn’t give a toss about music?

drewdawg said that he is happy with both formats, doesn’t feel the need to choose only one, especially because he also finds records to sound quite good as well.

As for his references, whether he happens to like new music or not, how in the world does referencing older music he likes equate to “ not giving a toss about music???”

Why are you so absolutely set on gatekeeping and telling others how much they are into music or not?
 
I think you are confusing the whole idea of being all about the music. Your posts 8135 and 8137 are consumed with nostalgia. You give the impression that you don't give a toss about music except when it triggers memories. What is your attitude to new music? Doesn't even get a mention.

PS If T Swift is on tour today, it is front page news, just like your reminiscences of the Stones. Same same.
If I told you how music stirs my emotions - dramatically more than any other passive activity - would you tell me I'm not I don't give a toss about the music, I'm about the emotion?
 
Absolutely not. Music's job is to stir the emotions. Are you making a logical error in thinking that I said one cannot be all about the music if music stirs one's emotions?

General note: I have added a PPS correction to my post 8138.
 
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Also since adding the Waxwing almost all of the audible drawbacks of listening to records have disappeared.
You know I have one of the EARLY Parks Audi Puffins. I wouldn't trade that thing for anything. A miracle in a "Stream Plunk" box. The guy
who used to run the place is/was one of the nicest people I've ever dealt with. He would definitely fit in here. For the money, it was one
of the best ideas ever.

I bought it at a great price from some guy who thought it wasn't transparent enough. LOL After I bought it, I told the guy he missed the whole
point. It was obvious to me that is exactly what it was made for.

I have more expensive phono preamps but for some reason, the "Might Puffin" can stand with some very expensive phono preamps. Sure great
for recording RtR, Cassette, CD, or memory card/stick/HD.

Another preamp that is up there for the money is a Herron VTPH-2A. The gain is set by swapping very inexpensive valves. JJ 12AX7s and
12AU7s (If my memory serves me) The loading plugs are unnecessary for 80+ % of the carts I use. Another prince of a fellow. He retired
but will pick up the phone or Email as if he were still in business. You would be hard-pressed to match the build and sound quality at 6-10k.
Mine came from Australia, it needed a voltage change.

My wife uses a Mcintosh MP200. Her record player/preamp is in the corner of the room next to her listening room. I swapped a Russco,
plinth and a blank aluminum armboard (that I make) He paid all the shipping for both pieces. That is a nice piece with the typical Mac
look and quality after peaking inside. The grandkids were playing, making her records skip. It pissed her off, this was her idea, but guess who
had to make the plinth and fix up the old Russco? XLRs work so nicely for a Phono preamp out.
Post of the day.
Thank you! No matter the inference. In the same way I can return any gift to the giver. I'll accept yours at face value, nothing more.
I think you are confusing the whole idea of being all about the music. Your posts 8135 and 8137 are consumed with nostalgia. You give the impression that you don't give a toss about music except when it triggers memories. What is your attitude to new music? Doesn't even get a mention.
Still trying to justify the reason to keep on posting nonsense as if it were some Freudian breakthrough that only you seem to realize.
He was pretty much a whack job too when it came to people in general. I actually think YOU believe you know what you're talking about.
The more you type the less sense you make about vinyl as a complete package. From as simple as it can be to the NUT spending 200K for
a preamp, turntable, and cart. Vinyl is here to stay and will go away when the first humans are born WITHOUT ears. Face it you and a
couple others on this thread define the word "TROLL". BTW I SELDOM say that about anyone. To be so wrong about something but think
you're so right.

As for Sal he has been on permanent ignore since day 3 (close) of my joining ASR. I bet we are more alike than he ever imagined, the problem is
IMAGINE. The guy has a one-track mind: my way or the highway. Sal, you're chiseled out of granite, no doubt about it. I'll defend your right
to NEVER change, once your mind is made up. Long live Sal!! Here, Here. If I drank, I would probably raise a glass.

Regards
 
Absolutely not. Music's job is to stir the emotions. Are you making a logical error in thinking that I said one cannot be all about the music if music stirs one's emotions?

General note: I have added a PPS correction to my post 8138.
No - but you made that statement about nostalgia - which is one of the emotions that can be stirred by music.

Not only from listening to music that has meaning from your past life - but also from the "sound character" of the source - and the physical interaction with the source.
 
Thank you! No matter the inference.
The only inference was I thought it was a brilliant post - perfectly explaining how tradition and nostalgia are an important and valid part of your musical experience.

That applies - at least in part - to my experience with vinyl. Sadly I only have one precious album that belonged to my Dad.
 
As for Sal he has been on permanent ignore since day 3 (close) of my joining ASR. I bet we are more alike than he ever imagined, the problem is
IMAGINE. The guy has a one-track mind: my way or the highway. Sal, you're chiseled out of granite, no doubt about it. I'll defend your right
to NEVER change, once your mind is made up. Long live Sal!! Here, Here. If I drank, I would probably raise a glass.
Sal put me on his ignore list when I pointed out that he has opinions about music and audio, he said I had no idea what opinions he has, and I then pointed out how he trashes LPs and turntables and seems obsessed with Pink Floyd. Amazing how "tough guys" can be so sensitive.
 
I don’t find much good usually comes from gatekeeping.
It's not and never has been a matter of "gatekeeping".
We call BS on all the snake-oil that gets produced by the "high end, sounds good to me" media.
They created it around everything from cables, powercords, USB widgets, CD edge painting, and vinyl LPs offering
better or even competitive sound quality with modern digital. If you like to play records I couldn't care less but just
don't try to BS anyone on their ability to reproduce High Fidelity music on level that has very little improved since 1960.
 
8,000 posts and counting...

Has anyone been able to 'splain the vinyl renaissance yet?
 
8,000 posts and counting...

Has anyone been able to 'splain the vinyl renaissance yet?
Yes, it was explained by the first few pages. It's just that a number of people refuse to accept the valid reasons that people have for using vinyl.

It doesn't matter how many times the "brave few" deny the reasons - the renaissance keeps happening.
 
Yes, it was explained by the first few pages. It's just that a number of people refuse to accept the valid reasons that people have for using vinyl.
Who did that, evidence please. ;)
 
Who did that, evidence please. ;)
Well half a dozen people give their own personal perfectly valid reasons in the first page alone. It carries on. After the first few pages, (certainly by page 25 when I jumped in ;) ) most of the reasons people enjoy vinyl have already been given. Taken as an aggregate, those reasons are behind the renaissance.

In that time there have also been plenty of posts trying to tell those people why they are wrong and are very very naughty boys for enjoying the vinyl. :p. But those posts are pointless in trying to answer the question. Peoples reasons are what they are - regardless of whether you think they are valid or not.

The subsequent 375 pages or so have basically been repetition ad infinitum. :facepalm:
 
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8,000 posts and counting...

Has anyone been able to 'splain the vinyl renaissance yet?

 
Why are you so absolutely set on gatekeeping and telling others how much they are into music or not?
It amazes me how we are being called gatekeeper for simply telling the truth.
Some of the of the vinyl guys here sound just exactly like the real gatekeepers we've ran into for years.
One after another we were totally banned or locked out of threads at websites like Computer Audiophile, Head-Fi, and WhatsBest, more, for debating the value of measurements, cables, power devices, etc. "Your spoiling our fun, why do you tell us what to listen to or what we hear, etc, etc until we got locked out of saying anything about them and shoved into a "special science only" thread as the only place the value of this snake-oil BS could be honestly discussed. I know for a fact that's what many have asked the mod's to do here...
Out of respect for this site I have basically agreed not to get involved in the Turntable - etc headers and let stand what many times has been posted tons of BS remarks I could happily rip apart. OTOH, this thread and a couple others that asked the same question, will remain open to the debate of the "value" of vinyl in this century.
 
Why are you so absolutely set on gatekeeping and telling others how much they are into music or not?
Matt, Why are you so absolutely set on gatekeeping and insisting we shut up?
Who's the friekin gatekeeper?
 
It amazes me how we are being called gatekeeper for simply telling the truth.

No Sal, it is not about you being brave truth tellers.

You missed the point that Newman keeps trying to tell us who is really “ all about the music” or not, and even suggesting a member doesn’t “give a toss about the music.”

That’s the type of BS I’m pointing out.

As to your brave truth telling, and pointing out BS on this thread, the large majority of it is your hallucinations. Virtually all the members currently participating on this thread acknowledge vinyls liabilities over and over (with the possible exception of atmosphere), and yet you feel the need to constantly write as if nobody has acknowledged this countless times. So I find most of your pushback is against phantoms.

By the way, I suddenly forgot that digital is a higher Fidelity format than vinyl. Could you remind me about that again?
 
Nostalgia is a perfectly good reason to enjoy something.

There are people who enjoy large capacity pushrod petrol engines despite them being hopelessly poor by modern state of the art and it does no harm to anybody.
I don't think the technical inadequacies of my LPs stops me enjoying the ones I still play, even though I am well aware of them.

I don't have a pushrod a car with a V8 with carburettors any more but apart from the dismal fuel consumption I still enjoy the two 4-cam V8 cars I do have even though I know how much better the response, power band and efficiency of my EV is.
My main use is similar, I mainly listen to digital and drive EV but there are the odd occasion where an LP or a quick thrash in my V8 will be fun.
 
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