Can anyone compare Mission 770 and Mofi Sourcepoint 10

[Airheader911]

I am looking for a set of speakers for my cottage and where I live I cannot audition anything so I typically research , make a decision and cross my fingers that the sound will be to my liking. Hoping I can get some opinions on Mofi SP10 versus Mission 770 from those who heard both.
Speakers will serve fairly large open concept cottage ( 650sq.ft high vaulted ceiling, ) for casual listening and narrowed my search down to KLH model 5 , Mission 770 and Mofi Sourcepoint 10 as I found pricing that put me in any of these at about the same price. I have found many favorable reviews on all and was about to pull the trigger on the Mission 770's over the KLH 5 when I stumbled across the Mofi SP10 reviews online. Can't find any comparisons by anyone that heard both the 770 and the SP10's .
If you have heard them both , I would love to hear your thoughts and which would you pick at same cost for a large room.
Will be powered by some older Classe Audio solid state gear (ca-150 amp and thirty preamp )

thanks for any help

 

[Miniyouuuu]

Wanting to change my Lintons I have heard both but on different sessions. No direct comparison, nor blind test, so conclusions would be subjective.

Love the 770s. Comparing to my Lintons (3-way back ported speaker) the 2-way front ported layout seemed to be a tad more open with a fast and precise kick on the bass. Both ways seemed better integrated and treble achieved more precision without fatigue to my ears.

Mofi SP10s are coaxial 2-way speakers, with larger cabinet but rear ported. My first impression was open and incredible coherence of speakers but a bit of sibilance to my ears. The coherence is that extreme that you feel the sound in the exact middle between speakers, and moving your hear is less of a problem to get a sweetspot.

Finally I got my Mofi SourcePoint 10 Master edition. Comparing to the excess of presence of 150-300hz from the Lintons, I noticed quite a lack of upper-bass, but that’s an ilussion, and you get much more precise sound.

In my room and with an Audiolab 9000a I get almost planar response at 2,5m distance, no sibilance (even at leveled high) and almost -8dB at 22hz. But I have 2 subs (SVS SB2000) in order to get more even bass in the low 100hz region where I have crazy room modes (see L & R variation).

SP10 ME without subs:

Same spot with subs:

Same spot with Lintons:

Comparison Lintons Vs Mofis:

 

[Arindal]

Hoping I can get some opinions on Mofi SP10 versus Mission 770 from those who heard both.

I have listening experience with both, and would say in this class (hefty bookshelfs), you cannot find two competently engineered models which are further apart from each other in terms of sound quality, sound character, audiophile virtues, genre preference, room compatibility, speaker placement necessities and subjective preference. Would go so far to say that people who love the Mission will hate the MoFi and vice versa.

Strongly recommend to have a test listening session with both and figure out which one you like more. Furthermore, some details on the room acoustics, listening distance, music taste would be helpful to foresee any incompatibility.

 

[Airheader911]

Sorry long!
Miniyouuu,
So since you have heard and like both but chose the Mofi it sounds like the Mofi was the winner based on your ear ?

Arendal ,
Some more info to help assess.
I have worked on sound studio projects and built a dedicated listening room in the basement of my house following acoustic design principles/ treatments etc and I can you our cottage is about the opposite.
Large volume , too much glass to many hard surfaces.
There is a rug (not thick enough) and some soft furnature in front of the speakers.
Room where the new speakers will live is 18ft w x 38ft long ( open concept cottage). Speakers are along the 18ft wall at one end where it open to the roof ( vaulted 10/12 pitch, peak is 22ft above floor). The vaulted area is open to a loft above.

Surfaces are wood shiplap over ICF walls and wood plank ceiling , no drywall. Hardwood floors and a massive 8ft x14ft window behind speakers. Pics attached. Open kitchen behind listening area

Listening is seated for morning coffee sessions 12ft from speakers but will be used alot for just filling the space with sound when in the kitchen (30ft from speakers at decent levels )

Music is everything but mainly blues , classic rock, jazz, vocals. I'm over 50 and tinnitus is setting in so critical listening not what it used to be but not willing to give up yet

Picture of room taken standing where the speakers will sit.
Picture of window taken during construction looking down from loft. Speakers sit right in front of that big window.

Historically I have owned and liked old vintage Canton , Energy , and now more recent modern speakers like focal and b&w but am also willing to try something different.
Auditioning is not really an option so I have been searching for something that passes WAF standards and had good reviews.
I built this cottage myself over the last 5 years and the speakers are my final item on the project. Was going to build some DIY speakers like Neil Blanchard tower 6 or SB Acoustics Gema but have found a few options in highly regarded used retro inspired options like those mentioned that makes me say I might as well just buy something used and if I don't like then I can change and not lose a fortune . DIY can be great but if you don't like them , not worth anything and I tend to go all out on finishing so my DIY speaker projects are never cheap.

 

[Miniyouuuu]

Would go so far to say that people who love the Mission will hate the MoFi and vice versa.

I get your point, but I was finally between both worlds and I got some facts in common:
-boxy speaker
-Soundstage is wide. I like the immersive scene they create.
-music definition with tendecy of warm/smooth

 

[Miniyouuuu]

I decided to go for the SP10 because of that coherence of coaxial layout. Mission 770 integration between 2 ways is huge, but will never get as clear as the Mofis.

I loved the bass of the 770s, really fast and tight by its propylene construction, and I will never get that bass in my Mofis. But I already had 2 sealed subs, so bass was not my goal.

Another difference is the darker sound you get with the 770s. Coming from the Lintons I loved that roll off and that relaxed sound in the upper frequency range, but I was a bit tired of the lack of precission in that region. The 770 is clearly more precise than the Lintons, but the Mofis are slightly more crisp.

My fear, as I already had some issues with the upper region of the Mofis SP10 in my audition, was the presence of sibilance. But due to the 3 levels of roll off you can get with the Master Edition, I chose the Mofis.

In a wooden cottage with double height I cannot predict which one will be a better choice. I don’t know which of both will interact less with your room. Maybe a front ported layout (770) is easier to implement at least in a medium to close seating position to the speakers.

In your case I think I would choose with the roll-off linking in mind. If you are more of a relaxed sound or more of a precision and slightly more shiny sound. Presumably SP10 Master Edition can play both worlds, but I think the 770s are a better choice for a jazzy relaxed sound. I’m an electronic music lover with deep bass and fast treble.

Maybe you already know both reviews in stereophile:
770s
https://www.stereophile.com/content/mission-770-loudspeaker-measurements

Mofi SP10 (non Máster Edition)

MoFi Electronics SourcePoint 10 loudspeaker Measurements | Stereophile.com

Sidebar 3: Measurements I used DRA Labs' MLSSA system and a calibrated DPA 4006 microphone with an Earthworks microphone preamplifier to measure the MoFi SourcePoint 10's farfield frequency behavior and dispersion. I used an Earthworks QTC-40 mike for the nearfield and in-room responses and...

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[Arindal]

Large volume , too much glass to many hard surfaces.
There is a rug (not thick enough) and some soft furnature in front of the speakers.
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Listening is seated for morning coffee sessions 12ft from speakers

To be frank, this description cries to me ´better avoid the Missions´. Risk is high you might end up with overly diffuse and brilliant, maybe even harsh, reproduction in your room. Reason being the tweeter´s wide dispersion and some diffraction issues in the 3-7K bands.

The MoFi 10 should work from room acoustics point, but I would not rule out the possibility they might sound dull and midrange-heavy in your environment (tonality similar to a vintage Tannoy if you know what I mean). So if you go for them, at least plan to implement some DSP to counter that (which is anyways a good idea if Tinnitus is an issue).

If I had to recommend a speaker for the given setup without prior listening test, I would choose the FinkTeam Kim. Yes, it is much more expensive, but it delivers the fun bass and impulsive treble of the Mission, the controlled dispersion and imaging of the MoFi and adds some audiophile transparency, never gets fatiguing. Maybe a used one or B-stock is an option.

Cracking my brain if there is any horn-loaded or coaxial speaker in this category which would match your presumed acoustical environment. Something like KSD Reference C100, but that one is active pro gear, and it looks like pro gear.

Another difference is the darker sound you get with the 770s. .. The 770 is clearly more precise than the Lintons, but the Mofis are slightly more crisp.

My experience is just the opposite, but that might have to do with different directivity and how a speaker interacts with the room in question. Found the Missions to be a bit on the crisp side in a reverberant room, the MoFis rather dull and recessed in the treble region of the reverb.

On-axis response does not tell the whole picture here, but a directivity plot does.

 

[Airheader911]

Well thanks to everyone for the help. I ordered the mofi's so will see how they work out. They were on sale for a good price but are not the master edition so will evaluate and determine if the better crossover is needed in my environment