leeking2005
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1st of all, I had a bachelor degree in electronic engineering so I can understand most of the technicality term in sound and frequency domain. But as I'm just starting my beginner journey in audiophile path with cheap Presonus Eris 3.5 pair + Sub 8, I want to ask something about a very popular cable - Canare L-2t2s.
For disclaimer I actually didn't had any experience with ultra expensive audiophile cable nor many types of cable, but I definitely can hear a significant different not only in term of just general frequency response alteration, but also the transcient response and even some weird effect (which I'm not sure if it's normal).
My setup consist of:
1. Two 4 meters local brand 2 core 20/0.012 + 1 shielded 94/0.12 ( AWG 24 TC material ), 1/4 inch TRS balanced cable from subwoofer output to eris 3.5.
2. One 3 meters Right angle 3.5mm to dual RCA canare L-2t2s.
I really like the local brand cheap microphone cable cause of it's vintage sound/design signature that also had very wide frequency range, but I feel it lack a bit in transcient department hence tried to combine it with thicker canare L-2t2s AWG 23 30/0.08 for 7 meter in total run.
However, when combined those two cable it not only completely blew the relatively neutral frequency response (boosted bass and reduce high), but also introduce some pleasent but unexpected compresor's effect.
After carefully balanced back the frequency response, I kinda like the new combination of vintage signature sound + tight (high transcient) and medium to heavily compressed sound signature... But it seemed kinda fake and too much coloured for the purpose of a studio monitor
Just curious and wanted to ask what could caused the natural medium to heavy compression effect on those "high end" cable? Is it the shielding, length, strands count, material, oxidixation or someting else like capacitance? And I wonder if this common of most custom made high end interconnectcableor just my design or soldering flaws~
Note worthy but might not be important ( Debatable but something to share ).
1. I used cheap roxtone connector for all the cable cause I heard they all had brass core and doesn't matter much.
2. I generally like 6mm or thicker microphone cable cause they had good enough shielding, low enough capacitance and generally warm/neutral signature.
3. Just used normal solder and quite excessively cause I heard it also doesn't matter.
4. The most neutral sound of strands count versus frequency response are 20/0.012 (AWG 23.5) and 4 times the ground cable.
5. I think the easiest way to determine if an interconnect cable is well design or not (aka snake oil) is through a studio monitor, less varieble means easier to catch the differences. For me it definitely reveal the material, design, shielding, frequency responseand transcient ofIC cable well enough.
6. From engineer perspective, I think IC cable do drastically affect the sound and need good design and manufacturing. It's not all snake oil like those non-engineer claimed, except maybe the price. But then again,so do all the 5 figures hifi system...
For disclaimer I actually didn't had any experience with ultra expensive audiophile cable nor many types of cable, but I definitely can hear a significant different not only in term of just general frequency response alteration, but also the transcient response and even some weird effect (which I'm not sure if it's normal).
My setup consist of:
1. Two 4 meters local brand 2 core 20/0.012 + 1 shielded 94/0.12 ( AWG 24 TC material ), 1/4 inch TRS balanced cable from subwoofer output to eris 3.5.
2. One 3 meters Right angle 3.5mm to dual RCA canare L-2t2s.
I really like the local brand cheap microphone cable cause of it's vintage sound/design signature that also had very wide frequency range, but I feel it lack a bit in transcient department hence tried to combine it with thicker canare L-2t2s AWG 23 30/0.08 for 7 meter in total run.
However, when combined those two cable it not only completely blew the relatively neutral frequency response (boosted bass and reduce high), but also introduce some pleasent but unexpected compresor's effect.
After carefully balanced back the frequency response, I kinda like the new combination of vintage signature sound + tight (high transcient) and medium to heavily compressed sound signature... But it seemed kinda fake and too much coloured for the purpose of a studio monitor
Just curious and wanted to ask what could caused the natural medium to heavy compression effect on those "high end" cable? Is it the shielding, length, strands count, material, oxidixation or someting else like capacitance? And I wonder if this common of most custom made high end interconnectcableor just my design or soldering flaws~
Note worthy but might not be important ( Debatable but something to share ).
1. I used cheap roxtone connector for all the cable cause I heard they all had brass core and doesn't matter much.
2. I generally like 6mm or thicker microphone cable cause they had good enough shielding, low enough capacitance and generally warm/neutral signature.
3. Just used normal solder and quite excessively cause I heard it also doesn't matter.
4. The most neutral sound of strands count versus frequency response are 20/0.012 (AWG 23.5) and 4 times the ground cable.
5. I think the easiest way to determine if an interconnect cable is well design or not (aka snake oil) is through a studio monitor, less varieble means easier to catch the differences. For me it definitely reveal the material, design, shielding, frequency responseand transcient ofIC cable well enough.
6. From engineer perspective, I think IC cable do drastically affect the sound and need good design and manufacturing. It's not all snake oil like those non-engineer claimed, except maybe the price. But then again,so do all the 5 figures hifi system...