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Budget Amp With High Pass Filter

Infact I've been wondering about this for some time. How to get an adjustable (line level) highpass, for cheap and preferably universal in use, since it's a very rare feature on actual hifi gear?

Option 1: DIY. You could easily build a cheap DIY box that has inline capacitors acting as a highpass between preamp and poweramp. For example use 2-pole 6-position rotary switch (cheap) to select between 6 crossover frequencies, or 5 plus defeat. Easy to calculate. Would even work for balanced signals, although I'm not sure what influence the cap tolerance would have on a balanced signal. Unbalanced, this is of no concern and should work fine.

Disadvantage: you need to adjust cap values for your particular preamp output impedance and amp input impedance. As soon as you exchange gear and these values change, you literally need to recalculate and recap the thing. Also you're limited to a -6dB/octave rolloff. Depending on speaker characteristics, this could be fine, or not. Certainly the weakest filter slope. The whole approach is really only feasible for the electronically inclined. For average customers and listeners it's not an option.

Option 2: Subwoofer with highpass built into the line-level passthrough. Active and 12dB/oct, The easiest king's way, IF: the usually fixed frequency fits your needs. Which more often than not, it doesn't. My old subwoofer highpassed at 50Hz and that was fine because the (large 8") satellites did 50Hz easily, but generally you'll want it to be adjustable. Most subwoofers today don't even offer any highpass functionality, and I've never seen any that has it adjustable. If you're lucky, it works fine, in most cases it doesn't.

Option 3: professional crossovers. Think analog Behringer Super X Pro thingies, or the DSP versions. Certainly still affordable at 120-300 for stereo. Fully adjustable, in case of DSP version even more so. The usual MiniDSP suspects are a bit more, but not much.

Overall, I really think there's only two options that make sense. 1) the super cheap DIY box if you're good at calculating and building such things and a mere 6dB slope works for your needs, and 2) full active crossover with all features. For people with little money the price may be somewhat steep for a mere filter, but it's really worth it. Hell, a 3-way DSP crossover for 300-500 moneys also doubles as a 3-way loudspeaker development kit.
 
This YouTuber has published some measurements on the A5.

 
So tempted to get a SMSL PS200 DAC just to try this out.

But I'm still holding out for the integrated version for double the price since that's what a good budget DAC costs. ONE power brick is enough for me!
 
wish the HPF was also demarcated at 80, 100, and 120 Hz.
Thank you for your first-hand feedback. Much appreciated.

As far as HPF markings, with some detailed testing, we may be able to figure out where these values are and make our own markings, although that's not ideal, of course.

What speakers have you tried driving with this A5 so far? And have you tried using it with speakers as well as with a powered sub? If so, were you able to integrate them well?
 
Option 2: Subwoofer with highpass built into the line-level passthrough. Active and 12dB/oct, The easiest king's way, IF: the usually fixed frequency fits your needs. Which more often than not, it doesn't. My old subwoofer highpassed at 50Hz and that was fine because the (large 8") satellites did 50Hz easily, but generally you'll want it to be adjustable. Most subwoofers today don't even offer any highpass functionality, and I've never seen any that has it adjustable. If you're lucky, it works fine, in most cases it doesn't.
This is the option that I'm currently using at my desk - my current sub (SVS SB2000) has an 80 Hz high-pass built-in - it's one of the reasons I bought it. My L/R speakers are KEF Q150, so the 80 Hz value works ok, but I too wish it was adjustable, giving you an option to possibly integrate them better.
 
The A5 is driving an 8ohm right channel speaker and an 8 ohm left channel speaker.

The 8ohm drivers are relatively high sensitivity…..and they sound great with the A5. I bought the A5 as I wanted to high pass this 8ohm speaker pair at 80Hz.

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I enjoy using different amplifiers for each speaker/speaker pair/sub/or center channel…so I tested the aux out on the A5 via A5 aux out to RCA adapter to RCA in on a Fosi TP02 sub amp. The aux out is variable full range…..which I then low passed to the sub via the Fosi TP02 sub frequency adjustment…it then also worked with A5 aux out to Dayton Audio Low Frequency DSP controller and then to the Fosi TP02 sub amp.

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This is the option that I'm currently using at my desk - my current sub (SVS SB2000) has an 80 Hz high-pass built-in - it's one of the reasons I bought it. My L/R speakers are KEF Q150, so the 80 Hz value works ok, but I too wish it was adjustable, giving you an option to possibly integrate them better.

This is the option that I'm currently using at my desk - my current sub (SVS SB2000) has an 80 Hz high-pass built-in - it's one of the reasons I bought it. My L/R speakers are KEF Q150, so the 80 Hz value works ok, but I too wish it was adjustable, giving you an option to possibly integrate them better.
I really wish more subwoofers had this by standard. It's such an easy way to do it all. Even having the crossover frequency adjustable for the line passthrough really is trivial.

If all or even most subwoofers would have this, the whole problem could've been solved 20 years ago. Especially in case of adjustable crossover or even just highpass. What's the difficulty or cost in adding a few resistors and a pot to an existing circuit?

I'm afraid it's as always: we customers are to blame, because we didn't demand this kind of very basic feature decades ago. So today, we also can't blame the manufacturers not supplying it by standard. Simple market economics of supply and demand, I guess! Or in other words: all y'all fuckers who bought highpassless subwoofers for the last 20 years, it's all your fault. :p:p
 
I really wish more subwoofers had this by standard. It's such an easy way to do it all. Even having the crossover frequency adjustable for the line passthrough really is trivial.

If all or even most subwoofers would have this, the whole problem could've been solved 20 years ago. Especially in case of adjustable crossover or even just highpass. What's the difficulty or cost in adding a few resistors and a pot to an existing circuit?

I'm afraid it's as always: we customers are to blame, because we didn't demand this kind of very basic feature decades ago. So today, we also can't blame the manufacturers not supplying it by standard. Simple market economics of supply and demand, I guess! Or in other words: all y'all fuckers who bought highpassless subwoofers for the last 20 years, it's all your fault. :p:p
My Emotiva sub has 60/80/100 HPF options with its Line Out. Would have loved a fully adjustable dial, but even those three settings really have kept my hand off my wallet when looking at various bass management options.
 
My Emotiva sub has 60/80/100 HPF options with its Line Out. Would have loved a fully adjustable dial, but even those three settings really have kept my hand off my wallet when looking at various bass management options.
Better than many options! It really shouldn't be that easy, but turns out, 20 years later it still is.

Who would've thought. Highpassed subwoofers are still rare after all this time.
 
I'm afraid it's as always: we customers are to blame, because we didn't demand this kind of very basic feature decades ago. So today, we also can't blame the manufacturers not supplying it by standard. Simple market economics of supply and demand, I guess! Or in other words: all y'all fuckers who bought highpassless subwoofers for the last 20 years, it's all your fault. :p:p
I'm guessing a lot of customers don't even realize it is a thing that they need. On the one end there are those that have good quality methods for splitting the signal between the regular speakers and the subwoofer in their signal chain and on the other end are those that think it is good if they can feel it. In the middle are the few of us that want an affordable way to do a decent job of integrating a subwoofer into the system and have very few choices.

I'm in the process of shopping for a stereo amp or receiver and haven't yet found a good one that has a high pass option when using a subwoofer. I've even considered an AVR but they are generally so big and expensive. I had some hope for the Cinema 70s but the test here shot that down...
 
I'm in the process of shopping for a stereo amp or receiver and haven't yet found a good one that has a high pass option when using a subwoofer. I've even considered an AVR but they are generally so big and expensive. I had some hope for the Cinema 70s but the test here shot that down...
Is WiiM Amp Pro out of your price range? It has HPF as well as room correction, and comes in a small package, alas, limited amount of power output...

 
I'll have to check that one out. I wish it had a couple other features but I guess I can't get everything in one box.
It is just ridiculous that the much more expensive, established brands don't have something so basic. Like Marantz with their Cinema option having high pass but their Stereo version not having it.
 
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