kemmler3D
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he SC15 drives the Buchardt wirelessly (WISA)
Thanks for the correction. Everyone please ignore my original comment.
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Buchardt A10 Active Speakers
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Thanks for the correction. Everyone please ignore my original comment.
Ken Tajalli
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I always wondered, why people buy a compact speaker, only to put them on chunky metal stands (pretty much have to), then wonder about loudness, compression and deep bass.
I mean such a speaker, with the stand, takes up as much room and floor space, as a floor stander. Total cost would be similar. But you get more efficient speaker, less compression, better bass extension . . .
If I was to get these lovely speakers, they have to go on shelves, in my office or somewhere similar, or I won't get them.
I mean such a speaker, with the stand, takes up as much room and floor space, as a floor stander. Total cost would be similar. But you get more efficient speaker, less compression, better bass extension . . .
If I was to get these lovely speakers, they have to go on shelves, in my office or somewhere similar, or I won't get them.
I mostly agree, but often times floorstanding speakers of a given brand and model line are two or more times the price. Ex. Kef R3 vs R5, Polk R200 vs R600, or are not offered from brands like Neumann or Genelec.
I own several stand mount speakers and use the same stand for all. So I could try a lot speakers for a lower price and see what I l like, so far owned the Kef LS50, KH120ii, Buchardt A10, Linton and a few a DIY speakers.
Had a few large speakers and they were boomy in my space, like the Polk R700. My next speaker will probably be large cause I want more dynamics and I have DSP now.
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Ken Tajalli
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These are not too expensive, considering they are DSP Actives, but still at $8K+ stands, they are not cheap either.
You can easily find a good pair of floorstanders for $6K+ a pair, and add another $2k for amplification, and you got it covered.
Hey I am not knocking these at all. All I am saying is, why use them as though they are floorstanders?
Put them on shelves, with a streamer, and you have a very good sound system, you can stream to, without taking up any floorspace.
Use them at levels they are happy at.
To try to go over that, get a subwoofer to reduce compression . . . . At what point have you gone too far?
Use them as they are, for what they are.
You can easily find a good pair of floorstanders for $6K+ a pair, and add another $2k for amplification, and you got it covered.
Hey I am not knocking these at all. All I am saying is, why use them as though they are floorstanders?
Put them on shelves, with a streamer, and you have a very good sound system, you can stream to, without taking up any floorspace.
Use them at levels they are happy at.
To try to go over that, get a subwoofer to reduce compression . . . . At what point have you gone too far?
Use them as they are, for what they are.
Buchardt A10 are $4k for the pair, not $8k.
I'm sorry but no. Properly designed DSP active speakers are factually better than any passive floorstander you can get in this price class.
Also, you got the MSRP wrong. It's half what you say : 3800€/pair.
Ken Tajalli
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Well that makes a difference.
At $4k, they are well worth it.
These days, some companies are selling speakers as EACH. I went to Buchardt website, prices were e3800 and then there was a button that said "how many" , so I assumed they were for one speaker.
Still, a compact speaker on stands, is as big as a floorstander.
But to get DSP Actives, of this quality, $4K is not much.
At $4k, they are well worth it.
These days, some companies are selling speakers as EACH. I went to Buchardt website, prices were e3800 and then there was a button that said "how many" , so I assumed they were for one speaker.
Still, a compact speaker on stands, is as big as a floorstander.
But to get DSP Actives, of this quality, $4K is not much.
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Part of the psychology for me is that I feel bookshelf / stand pair are easier to move around and more flexible (change height with different stands). But the truth is that I tend to just place bookshelfs/stands in the same place for many years and don't change a thing!
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I doubt just adding more volume to the speaker is a significant improvement considering that those Purifis are not power constrained even in an enclosure one fifth the size and the current distortion is well managed. The bigger enclosure is also more expensive, not only to manufacture but to ship too.
Of course, a larger enclosure would allow porting the Purifi for up to 12dB of SPL increase but that would reduce the tuning flexibility.
I don't see why you have to get "chunky stand", but bookshelves look a lot more airy to me. It might seem silly to many audiophiles, but this is obviously more of a lifestyle product.
I agree the way to make them louder and more dynamic is porting them, which means larger enclosure and probably a higher tunning frequency. I'd be happy with extension into the low 30s with more spl overall. Overall though full range even at lower volumes is a cool thing.
Ken Tajalli
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Yes, my aging Sonus Faber is a 2.5 way.
it has a bass-mid driver, and a bass driver.. It is a floorstander. But the floor space it occupies, is same as a small speaker on stands.
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I agree I was impressed with these speakers however, I had the same issue with them as well
So what is distorting first? Bass as expected? How loud do you make it before it sounds bad? How big are your rooms? Thanks
For owners using the A10, do you use the Plantin Hub or an external DAC? I have an existing DAC with XLR and my first thought was to just connect it that way. Just wondering though if I am adding extra conversion for no reason from my PC.
You are indeed. The XLR input is analog and must be converted before attacking the internal DSP.
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