Bob Clearmountain home and studio destroyed by Palisades fire | he and family are safe

[rcstevensonaz]

A Surfer said:
To be fair, up to now I didn't see it getting overly political even when climate was being discussed. Might have been some room to be tolerant and only step in when and if the discussion truly became too political. This was never an audio thread unless I missed something.

Like the post of yours I deleted ? Come on ....

I would like to add my "thank you" to the moderators on this one (speaking as one who loves a good debate). Aggressive nipping in the bud isn't a bad thing, especially when there is X and Meta and Bluesky and Truth Social and so many other forums for diving into the non-audio related aspects of the wildfires.

To @A Surfer, I suspect the distinction is one of perspective. I also agree the discussions were not "overly political". But, the discussion kept becoming "somewhat political", moving towards "a bit political" and even "mostly politically" — all the while touching against the line of "overly political" without becoming "obnoxiously political". And in my opinion, some even included what felt like innocuous dog whistles, just begging for "quite overtly political" responses.

 

[AdamG]

A Surfer said:
To be fair, up to now I didn't see it getting overly political even when climate was being discussed. Might have been some room to be tolerant and only step in when and if the discussion truly became too political. This was never an audio thread unless I missed something.

I would like to add my "thank you" to the moderators on this one (speaking as one who loves a good debate). Aggressive nipping in the bud isn't a bad thing, especially when there is X and Meta and Bluesky and Truth Social and so many other forums for diving into the non-audio related aspects of the wildfires.

To @A Surfer, I suspect the distinction is one of perspective. I also agree the discussions were not "overly political". But, the discussion kept becoming "somewhat political", moving towards "a bit political" and even "mostly politically" — all the while touching against the line of "overly political" without becoming "obnoxiously political". And in my opinion, some even included what felt like innocuous dog whistles, just begging for "quite overtly political" responses.

We have learned that if we let just one nose under the Tent. Within hours the thread will self destruct. It’s just human nature. Our job is to prevent that. Our members and friends are typically well behaved and civilized. It’s the Bar Fight phenomenon. Allowing just one fight will transform a bar into a fight club in a flash. Then we are left with cleaning up the joint and handing out suspensions to our highly valued customers. The outcomes are bad for us and bad for you. That’s why we do our best to stop the scuffle before it spreads.

We have had a bit of an evolution in thinking. In the past we would just shutdown the thread. But that punishes everyone for a few individuals who couldn’t follow the rules. We are now doing everything we can to keep the Thread open for your enjoyment and removing the bad actors from the conversation. That’s our plan for now.

Thank you for your support and encouragement.

 

[EERecordist]

First, they caught the drone flyer which crashed into the firefighting plane sent from Canada.

Second this probably belongs here, in the spirit of many benefit concerts over the years.

10:45 Green Day (with Billie Eilish at 12:10)22:23 Billy Crystal28:43 Alanis Morissette39:54 Anderson .Paak & Free Nationals (with Sheila E at 43:44, and Dr. Dre at 47:24)54:50 Joni Mitchell1:04:38 Dawes (with Stephen Stills & Mike Campbell at 1:09:39, and Graham Nash at 1:15:35)1:22:22 P!nk1:38:49 Rod Stewart1:52:39 John Mayer2:10:10 Earth Wind & Fire2:17:02 Black Crowes (with John & Shane Fogerty at 2:22:25, and Slash at 2:27:22)2:31:38 Gracie Abrams with Aaron Dessner2:39:34 No Doubt2:56:44 Tate McRae3:03:49 Jelly Roll3:13:26 Stevie Nicks3:34:25 Katy Perry3:44:38 Nirvana (with St. Vincent 3:44:38, Kim Gordon 3:48:35, Joan Jett at 3:52:08, and Violet Grohl at 3:55:29)4:01:44 Lil Baby4:08:55 Red Hot Chili Peppers4:35:37 Olivia Rodrigo4:47:05 Sting5:00:46 Peso Pluma5:06:48 Billie Eilish with Finneas5:28:43 Stevie Wonder (with Sting at 5:34:28)5:43:56 Lady Gaga

6 hours.

Some happy news is always needed in the world!