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Bob Clearmountain home and studio destroyed by Palisades fire | he and family are safe

After the fire is out then the people must find tradespeople and laborers to rebuild. In Canada a couple of cities that burned to the ground are still not rebuilt years later.
Look at Lahaina on Maui after almost a year and a half.

While the news about the superscooper was tonight, apparently it happened this morning. Lost that help in firefighting for the day, and high winds had not only spread the fires but prevented the flying up until last night (8th).
 
It's climate change in action, the desert is crawling northwards and bushfires are the tool of it. It's caused by high temperature and no rain and the strong wind does certainly not help. The same is happening in southern Europe with big bushfires also. But not in city centers like here in LA and surroundings.

But what also does not help is the massive eucalyptus forests that are planted there. Eucalyptus is planted because the wood is growing fast and is used a lot in carpentry. The original trees that grew there are way more fire resistant and would in most cases kill the bushfire. In europe they are on a massive scale replacing the Eucalyptus with trees that are less a danger like corkoak, olive trees and so, and in zones where that happened, bushfires are smaller, less frequent and easier to control and terminate. California should do the same and use a similar philosophy to beat the wildifires.

And also, bury your power cabling, that alone would avoid a lot of bushfires as cables can't snap that easy anymore, and when they do, they are underground and don't cause fire. But it's not done in the US, probally because of the extra costs. But it would help a lot.
 
But what also does not help is the massive eucalyptus forests that are planted there.
They are not native actually... were brought in to the US from AUS a long time ago for timber, as they're fast growing.

A large portion of Aus (75% of the native forests) is dominated by various species of eucalyptus.
It's climate change in action, the desert is crawling northwards and bushfires are the tool of it. It's caused by high temperature and no rain and the strong wind does certainly not help. The same is happening in southern Europe with big bushfires also. But not in city centers like here in LA and surroundings.
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They are not native actually... were brought in to the US from AUS a long time ago for timber, as they're fast growing.

A large portion of Aus (75% of the native forests) is dominated by various species of eucalyptus.

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I know in northern California when I was living there, there was some deliberate reduction in Eucalyptus in some cities, but they'd been allowed to run wild for quite a while....IIRC correctly it was particularly the Gold Rush in California and the decimation of native forests that egged the importation on. I saw a video of one of these guys catching fire, they're like bombs.
 
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Seems arson is creeping into the LA picture more and more...
 
I would hope people would look at the devastation caused by these fires and think, maybe we should do something about that climate change.
Or maybe we should pay attention to fire risk and housing. One is sure to be fixable the other is a much bigger task. Basically asking the whole world to fix a local problem that could be at least minimized on a local level in a period of a few years verses fixing the other over many decades.
 
Or maybe we should pay attention to fire risk and housing. One is sure to be fixable the other is a much bigger task. Basically asking the whole world to fix a local problem that could be at least minimized on a local level in a period of a few years verses fixing the other over many decades.
Building houses/homes in my city has turned into, "Infill housing." It's where 2 narrow houses or 4 row units are built on a single lot. Fire hazard be damned I guess.
 
One of the most terrifying things I've read was about people evacuating after an order, getting stuck in gridlocked traffic, and then being told to abandon the cars and get out on foot.

I can't even imagine what that would feel like. Having to outrun wildfire. With your family to take care of.
 
One of the most terrifying things I've read was about people evacuating after an order, getting stuck in gridlocked traffic, and then being told to abandon the cars and get out on foot.

I can't even imagine what that would feel like. Having to outrun wildfire. With your family to take care of.
It would be exhausting and all those toxins from the burning plastics and stuff would be deadly. Run don't walk I guess is the order.
 
TV station KTLA 5 said in a report that a wild fire can travel up a canyon up to fifteen times faster than traveling down a canyon.
 
It's climate change in action, the desert is crawling northwards and bushfires are the tool of it. It's caused by high temperature and no rain and the strong wind does certainly not help. The same is happening in southern Europe with big bushfires also. But not in city centers like here in LA and surroundings.

But what also does not help is the massive eucalyptus forests that are planted there. Eucalyptus is planted because the wood is growing fast and is used a lot in carpentry. The original trees that grew there are way more fire resistant and would in most cases kill the bushfire. In europe they are on a massive scale replacing the Eucalyptus with trees that are less a danger like corkoak, olive trees and so, and in zones where that happened, bushfires are smaller, less frequent and easier to control and terminate. California should do the same and use a similar philosophy to beat the wildifires.

And also, bury your power cabling, that alone would avoid a lot of bushfires as cables can't snap that easy anymore, and when they do, they are underground and don't cause fire. But it's not done in the US, probally because of the extra costs. But it would help a lot.
In California, you can’t get permits to bury cables.
 
But what also does not help is the massive eucalyptus forests that are planted there.
That's a core problem. When we bought a house in San Diego, everyone said to plant Eucalyptus trees because it grows fast and is draught tolerant. Then we moved to N. California and same trees help wipe out entire neighborhood in Berkeley. Lesson was not learned to not plant them close to homes and it remains a major problem in southern california.
 
One of the most terrifying things I've read was about people evacuating after an order, getting stuck in gridlocked traffic, and then being told to abandon the cars and get out on foot.

I can't even imagine what that would feel like. Having to outrun wildfire. With your family to take care of.
They later had to move those cars which were just left wherever the driver stopped. Some got moved with a bulldozer, many even locked the cars and took the keys. Steve Guttenberg (Police Academy guy) was trying to move cars himself as much as he could, tho....
 
The NY Times article linked below references a woman, EveAnna Manley, from Altadena, CA who owns Manley Laboratories. She returned to a home that survived but now cannot leave and return again - for now - due to checkpoints manned by National Guard troops.


 
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