Strangely, everything is perfect for him, even the "new" MQA.
Allow me to be skeptical.
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That's what I was referring to with my Icon, it sounds much better than the previous system I had, at least to my ears, without testing or anything like that. I can do A/B testing because I still have my previous devices but I like to enjoy music and I'm happy with that and I will continue to do so.
If you have a friend working at Bluesound, could you please ask why they don't care fixing this long lasting bug ?
I reported the bug one year ago, about the N100...
But still not fixed now with N132.
Tested today on my brand new Node N132
BluOS 4.8.15
Digital loopback with Tone control in
All is OK.
Level is just decreased by 6dB to avoid saturation - a good thing.
Still digital loopback, but now with Bass correction -0.5dB
We loose 40dB of dynamic range !
Trebble correction doesn't give any problem.
Just the bass correction.
I wonder how they'll be able to implement Dirac properly if they are not even able to implement a basic bass control without messing up.
Tonality control adds a lot of noise (Bass only, in fact)
Measuring the behaviour of the tone control on my Node 100 with BluOS 4.2.0, I see a few interesting things:1. Level is decreased by approx. 6dB Good ! Then no risk of overload by pushing Bass/ Tre...
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... curious to see if they -finally- fix the Bass noise issue.
I'll re-measure with 4.8.17 before posting my review of the Node N132 then...
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No difference.
(Maybe a bit worse Jitter ?)
And, well, no. The bass control is still broken.
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Hi.
I have a question about how the Icon updates the software and it is that the first time I started the device when I installed it on my sound system and with the last update 4.8.17 yesterday it happened that it did both updates correctly but at the same time finish, the light turns red and the screen turns off. According to Bluesound, you have to disconnect from the power grid for 30 seconds and reconnect if this happens, but it doesn't seem normal to me to have to do this after each update. I have asked Bluesound and they tell me that it is okay to disconnect the Icon from the mains after the device is updated. Do you have to do this every time it is updated?
I have a question about how the Icon updates the software and it is that the first time I started the device when I installed it on my sound system and with the last update 4.8.17 yesterday it happened that it did both updates correctly but at the same time finish, the light turns red and the screen turns off. According to Bluesound, you have to disconnect from the power grid for 30 seconds and reconnect if this happens, but it doesn't seem normal to me to have to do this after each update. I have asked Bluesound and they tell me that it is okay to disconnect the Icon from the mains after the device is updated. Do you have to do this every time it is updated?
Nope.
I have 5 Node N100, 2 PowerNode N150 and a NAD M50 -the oldest I own for more than 10 years now- and I don't remember I ever had to power cycle after an update.
Oh, and I also have a Node N132 since last week Friday, but that's a bit young to draw conclusions...
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I think you may be mixing up a few things. I have gone through a number of firmware updates on a few units including my new Icon. There is nothing in the Bluesound instructions about being required to disconnect the unit after an update. Bluesound will say it is OK to unplug it AFTER the update finishes, and definitely not during the update. If you have questions if the update installed, look in the settings to see the version number. If it is not the updated version you may have to simply re-run the update process, but I have not seen this as a common issue.
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Well, then my unit is damaged because on the two occasions that I have had to update the Icon, it has remained off and with a solid red light. So if I want to continue using my device I have to turn it off for 30 seconds. After this step I turn it on and check the BluOS app to see if it has been updated. I'll ask my seller tomorrow.
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This update applies to all Bluesound, NAD, and PSB players except the NAD M66.
WHAT’S NEW
DIRAC: Support C379
DIRAC: OEM Provided Updates
Dolby: Support M10v3
MQA Qrono: Codec Update
Does from this mean that non Icon products got QRONO? Or that the QRONO algorithm was tweaked?
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Let's hope we can disable it.
I don't want to be forced to get rid of all my Nodes and PowerNodes.
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This stuff isn't necessarily just old MQA and may not be a problem at all. Some of the older Nodes with poorer SINAD may even be improved, regardless of the controversial claims.Let's hope we can disable it.
I don't want to be forced to get rid of all my Nodes and PowerNodes.
Just as I wouldn't buy anything with QRONO without more evidence of what it really does, I wouldn't expect horrors from it being installed without evidence either.
However, you didn't buy your devices expecting that codec and I'd certainly be upset if I couldn't turn it off under those circumstances. You should know that before any change gets inflicted on you… even if it’s desirable.
It’s slightly interesting to see it mentioned as a codec.
Of course.
Still, this would piss me off seriously.
Let me be my own judge on that, please.
By the way: what is it doing ?
And how to know it's active or not ?
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