Zensō
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I also had the thought that GO wins here regardless of the outcome. If he passes the test he’ll be a certified golden ear, if he fails, the amount of traffic this drives to his YT channel will be worth the embarrassment.
Yep, this will be the bail out for such a scenario when it fails.Unless of course ADCs like the RME ADI-2 Pro are thought to pollute the signal chain.
False equivalence here. Blind ABX can be used to prove either that a difference exists, or that the difference is below threshold for perception (for pitch, loudness, tone, etc., whatever's being tested). The latter case is when you break out the machines to characterize what difference does exist. And then take such data and compare it to published studies about perception thresholds, playback conditions and the like.So I guess in summary. I'd consider myself an objectivist, but I think many other objectivists expectation-bias themselves into being unable to hear a difference between two given devices because they don't expect that X level of the metric they're testing for would be audible.
An ABX test CAN be used to prove a difference exists. But it cannot be used to prove a negative, that one does not exist.
Surely, if we have to go to such great lengths to ensure a legitimate result, the differences must be completely inconsequential, and the characteristics described in the GO review must be wholly imagined (I suppose this is why Amir is willing to gamble $1K). That said, I do enjoy a bit of theater, which is mostly what we have here.
Isn’t the stuff uploaded to his YT already embarrassing to him [in your guys eyes]?I also had the thought that GO wins here regardless of the outcome. If he passes the test he’ll be a certified golden ear, if he fails, the amount of traffic this drives to his YT channel will be worth the embarrassment.
His content is similar to much of the subjective review content on YouTube. I would think failing a controlled ABX in front of his subjective audience is another thing though.Isn’t the stuff uploaded to his YT already embarrassing to him [in your guys eyes]?
one can use the SU-9 and M500 in that case
Who is going to administer, witness and check validity of the test ?
I secretly hope he can pass the test with scientific valid evidence. That would be good for charity and future discussions on the sound of DACs.
Are comparable filter settings going to be used or are different filters allowed ?
Where you at Paul.. I know you lurking....
His content is similar to much of the subjective review content on YouTube. I would think failing a controlled ABX in front of his subjective audience is another thing though.
There's always the usual special pleading so there won't be any negative repercussions when he fails.
True enough.There's always the usual special pleading so there won't be any negative repercussions when he fails.
Yep. Often it's stress. He will claim that the thought of $1000 potentially not going to charity would be so...
Yep. Often it's stress. He will claim that the thought of $1000 potentially not going to charity would be so...
Ha!
That's actually a really "good" excuse. It has emotional impact. It paints the testee a a selfless underdog working for the good of others and the tester as a malevolent miser snatching away food and clothing from starving children. Much better than the usual "too stressful" defense.
I was just thinking of the usual backsies on whether or not the rest of the supporting equipment is "resolving" enough to hear the difference between the devices actually under test. The testee "admits" that he made a mistake in agreeing to the other supporting equipment. All the other subjectivists say, "I could have told you that ahead of time". Cognitive dissonance is resolved.
Maybe, but let's do the test correctly so that any confounding variables are eliminated. Let's do this scientifically, or we are nothing.
Now there is an idea. I could record the output of Magnius and whatever else he said sounds better and have him go through this checkpoint first. Good thinking!Do two level matched, equal duration recordings into an ADC and use foobar's ABX plugin.
He better not complain about that after saying this in his MQA write-up:Unless of course ADCs like the RME ADI-2 Pro are thought to pollute the signal chain.
I am happy to do that. I can even loan him the RME ADC if he doesn't have one. Agree pkane is best at creating such files. I know I don't have the patience.Anyone with the facility to do precise level matching should create the files. @KSTR, would you mind doing that? That way a lot of the setup and provenance wouldn't be in question and the files would be publicly available. The units in question could be sent to you. Your nulling method and @pkane's null software can be used to characterize the difference.