Bigger subwoofer

[DanielT]

I just wanna have it keep up with the main speakers

Wiim room fit adjust the bass so it's flatter as someone wrote it's better at room correction then speaker correction

It's not at all hard to find something loud and inexpensive Behringer DR18SUB 18" 30hz, peak 2400 watt 129db 412-413 euros new, but downscale it to a 10" hifi subwoofer stil with power is hard to find, speedwoofer 10e is just one.

Im not shure about shipping and total price from uk if the take it's +20 euros handling fee and 25% vat + what ever shipping might be

Something like this we don't have in europe (the 8" version is $140)

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=9723

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Physical space in the living room, the aesthetic, possibly the aspect of taking noise-sensitive neighbors into account.
and the size of the wallet in relation to what you want, wish, need for bass or let's say bass output/SPL (with an acceptable level of distortion).

Subwoofer is about being able to pump air. The more air that is pumped the more bass. The larger the speaker driver, the larger the surface area that pumps air. For example, two 8 inch drivers have less surface area than a 12 inch driver. An 18 inch driver has more surface area than two 12 inch and so on.
At lower volumes with a big ass sub, given that it is a good speaker subwoofer driver in a well-constructed box, lower distortion than in a smaller sub. The large subwoofer works easier so to speak.

Spoiler: From this thread

'Ultra-low frequency Rotary Subwoofer'

Dec 10, 2021

What is this? Ultra-low frequency Rotary Subwoofer

I've never heard of. Seems exciting. Anyone know anything more about it? Is it possible to get it for Hifi? Or? I have no idea.
So for frequencies in if the audible range above 19 Hz? But how to solve it? What would you gain from that? That engine was not completely noise-free either.

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A physically small subwoofer, with a speaker driver that has good stroke/x-max, then a lot of amp power is needed. Especially if it is a sealed box.


Edit:
Speaking of neighbors. At the summer cottage, no neighbors to consider, there I have two 12 inch subwoofers. Could easily imagine bigger subs, or more of them (I'll keep an eye out for that). In my apartment in the city. considering neighbors, why not a small Audio Pro Addon 8 inch sub.
Plus good headphones

 

[Flaesh]

I just wanna have it keep up with the main speakers

The subwoofer can very likely lag behind the main speakers by tens of milliseconds. Can you use a delay for the main speakers?
And the room itself can cause various time deviations; for example,

just a pair of speakers without a subwoofer.
Audibility thresholds of such deviations may be discussed and\or can be studied by listening to different variations. In DBT or not))

 

[DanielT]

The subwoofer can very likely lag behind the main speakers by tens of milliseconds. Can you use a delay for the main speakers?
And the room itself can cause various time deviations; for example,
View attachment 477047 just a pair of speakers without a subwoofer.
Audibility thresholds of such deviations may be discussed and\or can be studied by listening to different variations. In DBT or not))

TS has a Wiim Amp Pro, which has the function of setting the time delay speaker-sub:


On the other hand, TS does not want two subwoofers, placed in different places, because the time delay cannot be set individually for each subwoofer.
Of course, there is the possibility of placing them at the same distance from the speakers, but that becomes, or can become, a little more inflexible vs one subwoofer and then a time delay speaker - sub.

 

[gasolin75]

The subwoofer can very likely lag behind the main speakers by tens of milliseconds. Can you use a delay for the main speakers?
And the room itself can cause various time deviations; for example,
View attachment 477047 just a pair of speakers without a subwoofer.
Audibility thresholds of such deviations may be discussed and\or can be studied by listening to different variations. In DBT or not))

Spl,power

At 90% my sub is okay but as amirm wrote,a wiim amp pro it might have a limiter, max power 100%, no distortion

Main speakers at 100% and 60hz crossover is just loud not much overload

Shame when having power (wiim amp,main speakers) that my sub can't 100% keep up, active 12-18" pa subwoofer can easily be had for 400 euros but they don't come in a 10 or 12 inch version with high power lets say minimum 250-300 watt rms or rated spl above 110db for 300-400 euros, 12-18" pa sub are just to much power and BIG. Sound quality ? If high power,spl is a sign of high sound quality, most pa subs are crazy good

 

[Matt34]

I picked up a couple of these recently, initial listening, they are comparable to the RSL 10s.

TONE WINNER SW-D1000 10'' PORTED SUBWOOFER - IN STOCK

TONE WINNER SW-D1000 10'' PORTED SUBWOOFER Experience the long-lasting, impressive performance of the TONE WINNER SW-D1000 10'' PORTED SUBWOOFER - now in stock! Boasting an expansive frequency range of 21-240Hz and a powerful 200W amplifier output, this subwoofer delivers clear and robust bass...

summithifiusa.com

 

[gasolin75]

I picked up a couple of these recently, initial listening, they are comparable to the RSL 10s.

TONE WINNER SW-D1000 10'' PORTED SUBWOOFER - IN STOCK

TONE WINNER SW-D1000 10'' PORTED SUBWOOFER Experience the long-lasting, impressive performance of the TONE WINNER SW-D1000 10'' PORTED SUBWOOFER - now in stock! Boasting an expansive frequency range of 21-240Hz and a powerful 200W amplifier output, this subwoofer delivers clear and robust bass...

summithifiusa.com

Can't get one in europe even close to $349, €298

$655,€548

TONEWINNER SW-1000 Active Subwoofer

The Tonewinner SW1000 is a bass-reflex active subwoofer with a 25.4cm driver delivering up to 200Wrms power at 4 ohms.

www.audiophonics.fr

 

[DanielT]

If you live near Sweden, take the car, drive over the bridge and buy an 18 inch JBL based subwoofer:

JBL 18" bass 2240G 1 piece JBL 18" bass 2240H 1 piece So the 4 ohm and 8 ohm version of this model. For more information check the web. Class D power amplifier, zappulse 2.3se, check the web and picture for more information. Preferably sold as a package for $440, otherwise $165 per part. In case of a smooth deal, cables are included. Not shipped, only on site you can buy the stuff.

JBL 2240G 1st + JBL 2240H 1st

JBL 18" bas 2240G 1 styck JBL 18" bas 2240H 1 styck Alltså 4 ohm och 8 ohm versionen av denna modellen. För mer information kolla nätet. Klass D slutsteg, zappulse 2.3se, kolla nätet och bild

hifitorget.se

 

[gasolin75]

Without any doubt, they are to big, no car

I mentiopned 10" because i don't know if i have the space for a 12" subwoofer

 

[DanielT]

Also, DIY. Can be really good or poorly constructed. You have to investigate that before buying.

Well constructed DIY there you can make really good purchases. DIY on the second-hand market, even good DIY, you tend to be able to get for little money. Or good hifi/speakers for little money I should say.

 

[gasolin75]

Tone winner sub is almost $500

 

[Flaesh]

the space for a 12" subwoofer

13"x13"x6-7" seems quite compact..

 

[gasolin75]

13"x13"x6-7" ??

A tone winner 10" subwoofer is 360x432x432 (WxDxH)

Speedwoofer 10e is H: 15.5” x W: 15” x D:15 1/4”

My sub is 295x295x275 mm