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Best sub-$100 4-inch car speakers for arcade cabinet (amp recommendation also requested)

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Ah sorry didn't notice the dollar sign. They are £77 in the uk. Not sure what would fit your budget in different markets.
 

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I have a pair of JBL 4" 2-ways (don't remember the model number, EDIT: Probably GX402) in my crappy Suzuki. I have no complaints about the sound. They are certainly light-years better than anything you'd find in an original 80's cabinet.

On a side note: I'm a big fan of both arcade gaming and Sonic the Hedgehog. Have a Taito Egret II in my living room and more Sega Mega Drives in storage than any sane person should.
 
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W E L C O M E T O T H E N E X T L E V E L ! ;)

Thanks so much for sharing that piece of advice. Judging by the size of it, I think the JBLs look like are right up my alley. Now, just to figure out the amp to load up to power them.
 

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What about mounting some traditional speakers in their own cabinets to the sides?

It wouldn't look as nice as a package, but sound quality would be a lot better. But maybe that's not as big of a deal in this application, so-so sound is probably OK. I can definitely see the appeal of a smallish all in 1 package, you could probably pick it up and move it wherever you wanted to use it. If you start hanging speakers off of the sides, that starts to go away.

The Neumi BS5s that just hardisj tested well seem like they would pair nicely. I can't say if the would do well for that (very near field) application though.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/neumi-bs5-bookshelf-speaker-review.14404/

I wonder if the IcePower 125 is overkill? The 50 might save a bit of cost and size, but from some quick googling maybe not enough to be worth it.

Are you planning to mount it in the case or just the raw board inside of the arcade cabinet? Personally I would find a way to do it that way, a case seems silly just to put it inside of another case.

If you do something like the IcePower amps in their own case, and separate traditional speakers, you can always use those on their own for a different application later.

A few other ideas for amps, though they would all need separate power supplies.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...m-d1004-4-channel-car-amplifier-review.11528/
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/allo-volt-d-amplifier-review.15539/
Or even the regular Allo Volt might be enough and is super duper cheap. https://allo.com/sparky/volt-plus-amp.html

Are you doing a RasberryPi? I guess yes, but if you are doing a traditional PC with traditional PC power supply I wonder if you could grab some of the DC rails to power any of these?

I'm honestly not sure if any of these are better ideas, but just some alternatives that popped into my head.
 
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I would make a hole in the back. Get a cheap 6 or 8 inch as woofer. The mid/highs are than not so importend. Than use a cheap double tpa3116 2.1 amp. Hey its for fun?
 
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Thanks! Just as an update, I made a speaker change. I got the JBLs and—frankly—they sounded like a honky, trebly, confused disaster so I returned them not thinking twice about it. Over that week, I dug deep into DIYAudio.com and read everything I could from blind tests to build logs and I found a lot of love for (and charts in support of) Markaudio and the CHR-70 which stood out among the crowd. Fast forward to this week, I ordered the Markaudio’s from Madisound Speaker Components and unboxing and listening...W-O-W! I Just mean, WOW. These speakers are so crystal clear, evenly toned, and dynamic. Breathtaking. I was not expecting this at all from a mere $36 driver. At. All. If you are wanting speakers for a project, these are a sure fire bet. I can only begin to imagine what the Alpair 7.3eN’s sound like because these totally rocked my world and transformed my expectations of what a sub-$100 pair of drivers can and should sound like. This is a benchmark for amazing. I am so strongly tempted to get another pair just to build actual speaker cabinets for them. Yes, they are that good.
 
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I got the JBLs and—frankly—they sounded like a honky, trebly, confused disaster so I returned them not thinking twice about it.
I should be surprised, but I'm not really. The horrible acoustics and the non existent dampening material in my car probably mask the honkyness of my own JBLs :D

I'll keep Markaudio in mind if I ever get the chance to build a luxury arcade cabinet myself.
 

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This old machines had realy strong bass. But its the way you like.

Edit says: They had to mask the 8bit sound, so .... it's all about that bass no trouble... ;)

Edit from edit says:50€ for one speaker in a fun gaming console? You must be rich or crazy. ;)
 
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True. From what I understand, a lot of the really old games use raw square waves for sound effects.

But there's also a ton games (especially from the 90's) that have really gorgeous music. Red Book format is not uncommon.
 
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You hit the nail on the head. It is not just for basic synthesized music but red book titles too, though I do prefer listening to the SEGA Genesis’s excellent Yamaha sound chip through resolving speakers too. I am using this bartop arcade as a game console station for all games, modern and classic, as well. Launchbox with Bigbox is amazing software for a do-it-all, user friendly arcade solution. I should also mention that this is kind of an investment for the future for when spouse and children come along for quality family time. It has a 4K and 100% Adobe RGB touchscreen, dynamic LCD marquee, 19 individually controlled dynamic RGB pushbuttons, aluminum brushed and rubber topped balltop Sanwa JLF joysticks, and custom designed vinyl panels and plexiglass covering for the control and admin panels. Make no mistake: this is an endgame bartop arcade system. Then again, we have members here who will routinely drop several grand on their Hi-Fi setups without batting an eye. I have spent a lot but nowhere near as much as that on this.
 
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You hit the nail on the head. It is not just for basic synthesized music but red book titles too, though I do prefer listening to the SEGA Genesis’s excellent Yamaha sound chip through resolving speakers too. I am using this bartop arcade as a game console station for all games, modern and classic, as well. Launchbox with Bigbox is amazing software for a do-it-all, user friendly arcade solution. I should also mention that this is kind of an investment for the future for when spouse and children come along for quality family time. It has a 4K and 100% Adobe RGB touchscreen, dynamic LCD marquee, 19 individually controlled dynamic RGB pushbuttons, aluminum brushed and rubber topped balltop Sanwa JLF joysticks, and custom designed vinyl panels and plexiglass covering for the control and admin panels. Make no mistake: this is an endgame bartop arcade system. Then again, we have members here who will routinely drop several grand on their Hi-Fi setups without batting an eye.
All easy we have members here that understand fun. ;)
 
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I have basically all my parts now, but I am just held up on the vinyl panel artwork, which was sourced from a graphics designer in Portugal, that is in limbo land between export and customs. If I could have done it over again, I would have opted for DHL over the CTT but it is water under the bridge. I could wait anywhere from another week to almost a month from now before it hits the mainland. While I wait, here is the panel artwork I had designed and printed for your viewing pleasure:

Speaker panel:
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Control panel:
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Admin panel:
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Marquee (not used):
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Top panel:
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Left panel:
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Right panel:
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Rear door panel:
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