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Best speaker for sound stage under 4k
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I have seen that. However it seems that overall volume distortion is a concern. I want to find a pair of speakers that could eventually fill a good sized room
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The answer for me was Klipsch Heresy IVs. Only $3500 for the pair including tax. Perfect for my main setup in my living room. Slight toe-in. I found when I moved them close to the wall that I didn't even need the subwoofer I had. Wide soundstage. "Live" sound like the musicians are in my room. With Fosi V3 mono amps, they will easily go way louder than I would ever want.
Edited to add: If I had a larger room, I would have gone with the Forte IVs or Cornwalls. Both of those would put you over $4k.
Edited to add: If I had a larger room, I would have gone with the Forte IVs or Cornwalls. Both of those would put you over $4k.
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A big room and acoustic treatment, chasing ISO 3382-1. If you want loud HiFi tire isn't where you should be looking but uper part of Pro segment with measurement (from manufacturer or elsewhere).
If you are not into braking SPL of over 102 dB especially in highs (which HiFi can't do with little tweeters) you should focus on mid bass performance and pair of good sub's. For example Polk R700 + 2x 12" sub's. So that you get lower THD where it matters the most and where true peeks will be and nice capable enough midrange clear from cabinet and other harmonic influences (separate driver preferable in it's own enclosure over 5.5").
If you are not into braking SPL of over 102 dB especially in highs (which HiFi can't do with little tweeters) you should focus on mid bass performance and pair of good sub's. For example Polk R700 + 2x 12" sub's. So that you get lower THD where it matters the most and where true peeks will be and nice capable enough midrange clear from cabinet and other harmonic influences (separate driver preferable in it's own enclosure over 5.5").
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That’s the tower you recommend? The Polk r700 ? No to arendal speakers? Or revel?
Would one RSL speedwoofer be good enough?
I do need it for a large room now, but it’d be nice to only invest once and the speakers be able to fill a larger room once I upsize
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Think those would sound good with a Wiim amp ultra and a Willsenton R8?
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I would really, really go over 10" sub's, ported 12" one's at least (or bigger close enclosure one's so that you don't compromise much regarding time domain).
I took example of very deacent three ways towers (still affordable) with 2x8 mid bass drivers deliberately to show you at what to aim (nothing more).
How big is the room? How loud?
I was looking at these myself, but hesitant to move on from Energy C5s and C9s.
March Audio Sointuva AWG: https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/march_sointuva_awg/
On sale for $4k
I was looking at these myself, but hesitant to move on from Energy C5s and C9s.
March Audio Sointuva AWG: https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/march_sointuva_awg/
On sale for $4k
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Those better than super lintons?
I love my Sointuva AWG speakers. Everytime I turn my system on and sit down to listen to music I am impressed by its bass, power handling, clarity, balance and soundstage. And it's been several months now since I have owned then, honeymoon phase should have been over, but still going strong.
You have to decide for yourself, as there are diminishing returns. Check Erin's Parting / Random Thoughts. One note: if you want to play it LOUD, the measurements for the March Sointuva AWG assert that it will do so - if given proper amplification - with almost zero compression (if you have subwoofers to help at 50hz). But again, will differences really be audible for you, and will it be worth the step up in pricing tier?
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I guess which ever one is more compatible with a Wiim amp ultra and a Willsenton R8You have to decide for yourself, as there are diminishing returns. Check Erin's Parting / Random Thoughts. One note: if you want to play it LOUD, the measurements for the March Sointuva AWG assert that it will do so - if given proper amplification - with almost zero compression (if you have subwoofers to help at 50hz). But again, will differences really be audible for you, and will it be worth the step up in pricing tier?
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If you want to go loud-ish you should be looking at towers, if you want to go truly loud, like enough for people to start covering ears, you should look into horns as @Brian Hall mentions. There is no substitute for efficiency and getting really loud requires >90dB efficiency (mostly horns) or gobs of power into multiple large cones, which is hard to find for reasonable money.
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First you have to know your preferences in sound. Some listeners like flat frecuency range speakers. Others like upper range detailed speakers and others upper range roll off. And some will like low bass presence and others prefer thin low bass because of large impact of room modes (untreated rooms).
Technically the answer would be Flat frecuency speakers which present music as it was intended. But some consider these speakers as boring.
In my case, as I’very sensible to sibilance, I prefer upper range roll-off speakers with deep bass. I like Linton-like speakers and my best experience with speakers was a Mission 770 audition. I tried the super-Lintons and they are objetively better than the regular Lintons, but they loose a bit of midbass and they increase my sibilance feeling.
Recently I auditioned a pair of Wilson puppies (50k), spectacular soundstage, but fortunately to my savings, they are not my type of speaker.
There are many ways to be happy spending 4k on a pair of speakers, but you just have to know your type of sound. I don’t like Cornwalls, I haven’t try the Arendals, superLintons are nice but they don’t get the Mission 770.
Technically the answer would be Flat frecuency speakers which present music as it was intended. But some consider these speakers as boring.
In my case, as I’very sensible to sibilance, I prefer upper range roll-off speakers with deep bass. I like Linton-like speakers and my best experience with speakers was a Mission 770 audition. I tried the super-Lintons and they are objetively better than the regular Lintons, but they loose a bit of midbass and they increase my sibilance feeling.
Recently I auditioned a pair of Wilson puppies (50k), spectacular soundstage, but fortunately to my savings, they are not my type of speaker.
There are many ways to be happy spending 4k on a pair of speakers, but you just have to know your type of sound. I don’t like Cornwalls, I haven’t try the Arendals, superLintons are nice but they don’t get the Mission 770.
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In that range there is a lot to choose from.
I really liked the Mofi SourcePoint 8, but you have to get used to their concentric speaker philosophy. At first I felt as both speakers where playing mono. Due to it’s construction you get a different type of stereo image. Same applies to many Kef speakers.
Some will like bowers&wilkins detail retrieval. But at 4k, you get their low tier range with huge sibilance to my ears.
At 4k there are plenty of 2,5 way towers with up to 6” speakers that I felt sound plain. In these cases I would prefer a 2 way bookshelf speaker with two nice 12”subwoofers.
I recently auditioned the new Sonusfaber sonetto bookshelf speakers and they were fabulous. A bit of sibilance to my ears, but really nice. And paired to a pair of SVS 2000 pro subwoofers is a wonderful match for a 4k target.
Active speakers are another category. Deep bass, fast and flat response. I never auditioned Neumanns speakers. I only auditioned some Yamahas and other studio monitors and they are too flat to my liking. Nice for mixing on a desk, but I prefer more large-hall experience, even at a cost of partially faking the real sound.
I really liked the Mofi SourcePoint 8, but you have to get used to their concentric speaker philosophy. At first I felt as both speakers where playing mono. Due to it’s construction you get a different type of stereo image. Same applies to many Kef speakers.
Some will like bowers&wilkins detail retrieval. But at 4k, you get their low tier range with huge sibilance to my ears.
At 4k there are plenty of 2,5 way towers with up to 6” speakers that I felt sound plain. In these cases I would prefer a 2 way bookshelf speaker with two nice 12”subwoofers.
I recently auditioned the new Sonusfaber sonetto bookshelf speakers and they were fabulous. A bit of sibilance to my ears, but really nice. And paired to a pair of SVS 2000 pro subwoofers is a wonderful match for a 4k target.
Active speakers are another category. Deep bass, fast and flat response. I never auditioned Neumanns speakers. I only auditioned some Yamahas and other studio monitors and they are too flat to my liking. Nice for mixing on a desk, but I prefer more large-hall experience, even at a cost of partially faking the real sound.
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