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Beer thread, what you drinkin..

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The last time I was in Salzburg, Austria (around the mid 1990's), visiting my Omi (grandmother [not long before she passed away at 96]), in the old folks home (actually damn nice efficiency apartments): she sent me downstairs to the beer machine to get some beers.
(in this case, Stiegl Goldbräu, crisp, malty, perfectly balanced):

(The following was pulled from the MAN VS GLOBE TRAVELBLOG [because they said it better than I could]):

From heritage that truly blossomed in the 19th century, when Salzburg, positioned between Bavaria and the Alps, became a brewing crossroads. Techniques refined in Munich met local ingenuity, and the result was a new generation of lagers defined by clarity and balance.
Among them rose Stiegl, founded in 1492 and still proudly independent today, which helped shape Austria’s national taste for crisp, full-bodied Märzen beer. It was an era that forged Salzburg’s reputation not only as a city of culture, but as one of the cornerstones of Austrian brewing.
Long before the grand concert halls and Mozart souvenirs that Salzburg is known for today, local monks were perfecting the art of fermentation. In the Middle Ages, when clean water was uncertain and brewing was mainly for sustenance, the city’s abbeys became the cradle of beer-making knowledge. The Augustinian friars of Mülln began crafting their rich, malty lagers here in the 17th century, laying down traditions that still endure within those same monastery walls. As Salzburg prospered, its brewing reputation spread beyond the cloisters. By the Renaissance, small private breweries dotted the city, each serving its neighborhood taverns and beer gardens, each competing to produce the smoothest, most consistent lager.
Salzburg’s beer scene is so firmly rooted in tradition that makes it one of Europe’s great, underrated, beer cities. A trip through it’s pubs and breweries is like a journey through time, and despite the few modern bars you find here, it is almost as if things have stood still for centuries.

From centuries-old monastery breweries like Augustiner Bräu Mülln to the panoramic terraces of Stieglkeller, the wheat-beer heritage of Die Weisse, and the cosmopolitan taps of Alchimiste Belge, the city’s brewing roots are clear to see and experience first hand. Whether you’re raising a stein in a riverside beer garden, sampling craft imports in a candlelit cellar, or tracing centuries of brewing prowess, Salzburg offers a beer experience as rich and layered as its baroque skyline.
 

The last time I was in Salzburg, Austria (around the mid 1990's), visiting my Omi (grandmother [not long before she passed away at 96]), in the old folks home (actually damn nice efficiency apartments): she sent me downstairs to the beer machine to get some beers.
(in this case, Stiegl Goldbräu, crisp, malty, perfectly balanced):

(The following was pulled from the MAN VS GLOBE TRAVELBLOG [because they said it better than I could]):

From heritage that truly blossomed in the 19th century, when Salzburg, positioned between Bavaria and the Alps, became a brewing crossroads. Techniques refined in Munich met local ingenuity, and the result was a new generation of lagers defined by clarity and balance.
Among them rose Stiegl, founded in 1492 and still proudly independent today, which helped shape Austria’s national taste for crisp, full-bodied Märzen beer. It was an era that forged Salzburg’s reputation not only as a city of culture, but as one of the cornerstones of Austrian brewing.
Long before the grand concert halls and Mozart souvenirs that Salzburg is known for today, local monks were perfecting the art of fermentation. In the Middle Ages, when clean water was uncertain and brewing was mainly for sustenance, the city’s abbeys became the cradle of beer-making knowledge. The Augustinian friars of Mülln began crafting their rich, malty lagers here in the 17th century, laying down traditions that still endure within those same monastery walls. As Salzburg prospered, its brewing reputation spread beyond the cloisters. By the Renaissance, small private breweries dotted the city, each serving its neighborhood taverns and beer gardens, each competing to produce the smoothest, most consistent lager.
Salzburg’s beer scene is so firmly rooted in tradition that makes it one of Europe’s great, underrated, beer cities. A trip through it’s pubs and breweries is like a journey through time, and despite the few modern bars you find here, it is almost as if things have stood still for centuries.

From centuries-old monastery breweries like Augustiner Bräu Mülln to the panoramic terraces of Stieglkeller, the wheat-beer heritage of Die Weisse, and the cosmopolitan taps of Alchimiste Belge, the city’s brewing roots are clear to see and experience first hand. Whether you’re raising a stein in a riverside beer garden, sampling craft imports in a candlelit cellar, or tracing centuries of brewing prowess, Salzburg offers a beer experience as rich and layered as its baroque skyl

The last time I was in Salzburg, Austria (around the mid 1990's), visiting my Omi (grandmother [not long before she passed away at 96]), in the old folks home (actually damn nice efficiency apartments): she sent me downstairs to the beer machine to get some beers.
(in this case, Stiegl Goldbräu, crisp, malty, perfectly balanced):

(The following was pulled from the MAN VS GLOBE TRAVELBLOG [because they said it better than I could]):

From heritage that truly blossomed in the 19th century, when Salzburg, positioned between Bavaria and the Alps, became a brewing crossroads. Techniques refined in Munich met local ingenuity, and the result was a new generation of lagers defined by clarity and balance.
Among them rose Stiegl, founded in 1492 and still proudly independent today, which helped shape Austria’s national taste for crisp, full-bodied Märzen beer. It was an era that forged Salzburg’s reputation not only as a city of culture, but as one of the cornerstones of Austrian brewing.
Long before the grand concert halls and Mozart souvenirs that Salzburg is known for today, local monks were perfecting the art of fermentation. In the Middle Ages, when clean water was uncertain and brewing was mainly for sustenance, the city’s abbeys became the cradle of beer-making knowledge. The Augustinian friars of Mülln began crafting their rich, malty lagers here in the 17th century, laying down traditions that still endure within those same monastery walls. As Salzburg prospered, its brewing reputation spread beyond the cloisters. By the Renaissance, small private breweries dotted the city, each serving its neighborhood taverns and beer gardens, each competing to produce the smoothest, most consistent lager.
Salzburg’s beer scene is so firmly rooted in tradition that makes it one of Europe’s great, underrated, beer cities. A trip through it’s pubs and breweries is like a journey through time, and despite the few modern bars you find here, it is almost as if things have stood still for centuries.

From centuries-old monastery breweries like Augustiner Bräu Mülln to the panoramic terraces of Stieglkeller, the wheat-beer heritage of Die Weisse, and the cosmopolitan taps of Alchimiste Belge, the city’s brewing roots are clear to see and experience first hand. Whether you’re raising a stein in a riverside beer garden, sampling craft imports in a candlelit cellar, or tracing centuries of brewing prowess, Salzburg offers a beer experience as rich and layered as its baroque skyline.
Just waking up, reading this makes me want to drink a cold brew for breakfast, you know what I think a will.

I was watching a documentary on early American brew , and it was made from apples , more like a hard cider for the same purposes mentioned in the summary above .
 
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Just waking up, reading this makes me want to drink a cold brew for breakfast, you know what I think a will.

I was watching a documentary on early American brew , and it was made from apples , more like a hard cider for the same purposes mentioned in the summary above .
German Bier (as they spell it) is propertied to be quite healthy. Until recent times (with the more local brewing in the US), I would say that the US brews were mostly not. Based on taste.
In the USA (growing up in Charleston, SC), I do not ever remember seeing a USA beer in my parents home. My father was a third generation Charlestonian with a great grandfather from Germany but his great grandmother was from Charleston. My mother is from Salzburg, Austria. (I was concieved in Charleston, born in Salzburg & back in Charleston when I was 3 months old)
In Austria & Germany that was called Most (sort of a short "o"). Here we call it "cider". But I have not had any cider that tastes like Most.
KühBreinMost Apple Cider with Schafnase Apples
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KühBreinMostApple Cider with Schafnase Apples, 750 ml

-15%
  • Elegant, characteristic fruity note
  • Speciality product
  • Produced with the latest cellar technology
€ 6,79€ 7,99(€ 9,05 / L)

And, one part of Austria is named for the Most that they make:
Mostviertel (German: [ˈmɔstˌfɪʁtl̩] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:De-Mostviertel.ogg" title="File:De-Mostviertel.ogg">ⓘ</a>; English: 'Most Quarter') is the southwestern quarter of the four quarters of Lower Austria (the northeast state of the 9 states in Austria). It is bordered on the north by the Danube and to the south and west by the state borders of Styria and Upper Austria respectively. The Wienerwald forms the natural border to the east and gives the quarter its second name, "The Quarter over the Wienerwald".<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mostviertel#cite_note-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a>

The name Mostviertel comes from the term Most, which refers to the perry and cider made in the region.
 
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I find this old advertisement intriguing and if it's been posted previously pardon the repeat.

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This is the beer my mate is drinking (after quite a journey to the pub) ;)

My old mate stars in a video for beer which is very apt, I’ve known Stephen since early 90’s but he moved from here in Galloway back up to fairisle 10odd years ago to fulfill his destiny (and birthright) where his ancestral tree can be traced back 500 years



 
Coors is pretty tasty although the founder/company was famously racist, sexist, and anti-gay, linked with Nazi sympathizers and the KKK. Boycott this company.


I think maybe a malty blonde ale would be a more ethical alternative.
 
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Coors is pretty tasty although the founder/company was famously racist, sexist, and anti-gay, linked with Nazi sympathizers and the KKK. Boycott this company.


I think maybe a malty blonde ale would be a more ethical alternative.
My beer opinion: their Coors beer is lite (too light for me) and that their Silver Bullet (their idea of a lite beer) is F'n close to water the same opinion that I have of 'green tea'.

I'm pretty sure that the founders (founded in 1873), did not have anything to do with all of that (not saying that stuff did not happen, just that it is unlikely that the founders had anything to do with it [if so, I want to know if they got to be that old {the newest things that they supposedly did are listed as 1990's} as a side effect of drinking Coors?]):
From Wikipedia:

Founding​

In 1873, German immigrants Adolph Coors and Jacob Schueler from Prussia immigrated to the United States and established a brewery in what was then Golden City, Colorado Territory (now Golden, Colorado), after buying a recipe for a Pilsner-style beer from a Czech immigrant, William Silhan. Coors invested $2,000 in the operation, and Schueler invested $18,000.

"ADOLPH COORS GOLDEN BREWERY" June 1911 map detail from Sanborn Fire Insurance Map
In 1880, Coors bought out his partner and became the sole owner of the brewery. Following the buyout, the firm was renamed the Adolph Coors Golden Brewery. During this era, Coors adopted a conservative growth strategy that prioritized product quality over aggressive expansion, famously spending only about $0.70 per barrel on advertising, which was only a fraction of the $3.00 per barrel spent by national "shipping" brewers like Anheuser-Busch. This approach was tied to the specific heritage of the brewery's flagship pilsner. Coors' flagship beer is usually described as Czech or Pilsner-style— the same family of pale lagers that made Plzeň famous after Josef Groll’s 1842 brew, the root of what became Pilsner Urquell. William Silhan (a brewmaster and associate of William Coors)’s exact path in Bohemia isn’t spelled out in the familiar English references, so the flagship Golden recipe is best thought of as part of that tradition rather than as a documented chapter of the Plzeň brewery’s payroll. Coors maintained that the beer’s quality, derived from this Bohemian lineage and the "soft" alpine water of Clear Creek, necessitated a policy of local refrigeration rather than the pasteurization used by national brands.

By the turn of the century, the brewery had become the largest in the state, and in 1913, it was formally incorporated as the Adolph Coors Brewing and Manufacturing Company. The company also began a trend of vertical integration and early environmentalism; in 1885, the brewery established a bottle-return program, paying 45 cents for every dozen empty quart bottles returned to the facility. This period of industrialization saw the brewery transition from a small-scale partnership into a massive complex that included its own bottling plant and a dedicated rail spur.
 
Oh I remember seeing this old advertisement back in old days in my father old house. That it is why I fell in love with quality beer and with quality alcohol!
In both the 1950 and 1970 rankings Schaefer Beer was one of the top selling beers in the US, ranking as high as fifth.
And down it went:
In 1981, the Schaefer family sold the company to the Stroh Brewery Company.
Stroh's then took over the Allentown plant in its own bid for national market share.
It operated the plant until the company was absorbed by Pabst Brewing Company in 1999.
When Pabst divested its facilities and opted to become a "virtual brewer", it sold the plant to Diageo just two years later.
In 2008, Diageo sold it to the Boston Brewing Company, the brewer of Samuel Adams beer.
Pabst retained the license to Schaefer, and as of 2021 outsourced a reformulated brew it labels "Schaefer" and sells in niche markets in the United States.
 
Kirin Ichiban (or as I like to joke... itchy bum)

Relatively hard to get in my neck of the woods but found some tonight.

Never drink canned or tap beer, only bottled and never from a glass.. even the 750ml's..it's a cultural thing I guess (public bar upbringing) at least for old uncouth buggers like me.

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After a recent hospital visit it's sadly 0% beer for me now. ;-(
 
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