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Battle of RCA Cables: Mogami, Amazon, Monoprice

Luvchampagne said:
Prices on the Amphenol have risen. $9 on Amazon. Inflation at work.

Thoughts on Canare F09 and F10?

Also, thoughts on xlr cable -> xlr/rca adapter -> rca cable vs. XLR to RCA cable vs. XLR -> Art cleanbox pro -> rca cable.
Audible difference?

Please no comments on why I'm going from XLR to RCA. No real choice. Not liking it either.
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It is better to buy Amphenol RCA plugs from Thomann, € 1.99 each.
 
NeLey169 said:
At around $8 a meter, do you think it's worth it?
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Then it would be a bit cheaper than other high-quality USB cables (sold by the meter) that are available.
Where can you buy the HD400 for this price?
 
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Roland68 said:
Then it would be a bit cheaper than other high-quality USB cables (sold by the meter) that are available.
Where can you buy the HD400 for this price?
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If you buy a complete USB cable from the company, the price for a 1m USB A to B cable is $19. I bought it on taobao while on aliexpress it was double the price.
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NeLey169 said:
If you buy a complete USB cable from the company, the price for a 1m USB A to B cable is $19. I bought it on taobao while on aliexpress it was double the price.
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Instead of looks (which I'm all for in any other case) and anything else,all a USB cable needs is to be certified.
Certification of one includes anything about the standards to even the times of plugging-unplugging (yes,it's finite)

Anything else is a shot in the dark.
 
Blumlein 88 said:
You could use an adapter, but that strains the RCA. If a short distance go female xlr to rca cable. If a long distance, short female xlr to rca and complete what is left with a regular xlr cable.

Converting in that direction is more likely to pick up noise than going on the other direction. The Clean box might be better, but I'm not familiar with what it is doing.
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Is there a difference in noise isolation between 0.25m and 1m RCA cables?

I heard the seller say that the cable should be at least 1m long to have enough length to isolate noise, while my system only needs a pair of 0.3m RCA/XLR, the longer the cable, the more money i spend per meter

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NeLey169 said:
Is there a difference in noise isolation between 0.25m and 1m RCA cables?

I heard the seller say that the cable should be at least 1m long to have enough length to isolate noise, while my system only needs a pair of 0.3m RCA/XLR, the longer the cable, the more money i spend per meter
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The length argument is mainly for digital signals and only makes sense if there is a significant impedance mismatch. If all you need to pass is analog, then shorter is better, although you might want to consider extra length to allow ease of moving the components for access if desired.
 
DonH56 said:
The length argument is mainly for digital signals and only makes sense if there is a significant impedance mismatch. If all you need to pass is analog, then shorter is better, although you might want to consider extra length to allow ease of moving the components for access if desired.
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Is the wire connecting from DAC to preamp and Power Amplifier Analog or Digital?
 
NeLey169 said:
Is there a difference in noise isolation between 0.25m and 1m RCA cables?

I heard the seller say that the cable should be at least 1m long to have enough length to isolate noise, while my system only needs a pair of 0.3m RCA/XLR, the longer the cable, the more money i spend per meter
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I am not sure what kind of noise isolation they have in mind, but generally that makes no sense. If all you need is .3 meters then that is fine. Yes DAC output to power amp is carrying an analog signal.
 
Blumlein 88 said:
I am not sure what kind of noise isolation they have in mind, but generally that makes no sense. If all you need is .3 meters then that is fine. Yes DAC output to power amp is carrying an analog signal.
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I actually only need 0.25m, I thought I would make a pair of 0.5m which would be enough length, but the seller told me to make 1m because 1m will isolate noise better than 0.5m, the seller said the minimum length to isolate noise is 1m so I wondered about this issue.
 
NeLey169 said:
I actually only need 0.25m, I thought I would make a pair of 0.5m which would be enough length, but the seller told me to make 1m because 1m will isolate noise better than 0.5m, the seller said the minimum length to isolate noise is 1m so I wondered about this issue.
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Unless the seller can explain what they mean, sounds like they are not giving credible advice. Usually longer lengths are not much more costly especially on short pieces as the connectors are the greater expense. If noise is being picked up, the longer the cable the more it picks up. However with this being an analog cable carrying audio it just isn't going to make any difference. I probably would prefer a .5 meter to have some flexibility in placement. But I don't know your situation.
 
NeLey169 said:
I actually only need 0.25m, I thought I would make a pair of 0.5m which would be enough length, but the seller told me to make 1m because 1m will isolate noise better than 0.5m, the seller said the minimum length to isolate noise is 1m so I wondered about this issue.
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You were simply duped by a salesperson's false, half-baked knowledge, probably without any malicious intent.

The problem that doesn't exist with analog audio cables is called "reflection/echo" and refers to coaxial network cables, and could actually have been a problem with short cables 30-40 years ago. In reality, this was very rare.

The problem doesn't exist in the audio sector and never has.
This shows you how false, half-baked knowledge has persisted in the audio sector for decades and cannot be eradicated.

Worldwide, 100,000 or even millions of people use analog and digital cables with lengths of 15cm-30cm in their desktop setups without any problems.
These cables are sold by Audiophonics, Amazon, Aliexpress, etc., but also by manufacturers like Topping.

Do you need more proof? Or have you ever heard of real problems with short cables from real experience?

This nonsense can't seem to be eradicated, it keeps coming back.
 
NeLey169 said:
I actually only need 0.25m, I thought I would make a pair of 0.5m which would be enough length, but the seller told me to make 1m because 1m will isolate noise better than 0.5m, the seller said the minimum length to isolate noise is 1m so I wondered about this issue.
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The seller doesn't know what he is talking about. I'd avoid him in the future, since you can't trust his advice.


Welcome to the forum by the way.
 
Roland68 said:
Bạn chỉ bị lừa bởi kiến thức sai lệch, thiếu chính xác của nhân viên bán hàng, có thể không có ý định xấu nào cả.

Vấn đề không tồn tại với cáp âm thanh analog được gọi là "phản xạ/tiếng vọng" và liên quan đến cáp mạng đồng trục, và thực tế có thể là vấn đề với cáp ngắn cách đây 30-40 năm. Trên thực tế, điều này rất hiếm khi xảy ra.

Vấn đề này không tồn tại trong lĩnh vực âm thanh và chưa bao giờ tồn tại.
Điều này cho thấy kiến thức sai lệch, thiếu chính xác đã tồn tại trong ngành âm thanh trong nhiều thập kỷ và không thể xóa bỏ được.

Trên toàn thế giới, 100.000 hoặc thậm chí hàng triệu người sử dụng cáp analog và kỹ thuật số có chiều dài từ 15cm-30cm trong hệ thống máy tính để bàn của họ mà không gặp bất kỳ vấn đề gì.
Những loại cáp này được bán bởi Audiophonics, Amazon, Aliexpress, v.v., nhưng cũng được bán bởi các nhà sản xuất như Topping.

Bạn có cần thêm bằng chứng không? Hay bạn đã từng nghe nói về những vấn đề thực tế với cáp ngắn từ kinh nghiệm thực tế chưa?

Sự vô lý này có vẻ như không thể xóa bỏ được, nó cứ tái diễn.
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The seller said 1m is the minimum length sufficient to isolate EMI/RFI interference
 
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